From mir at ripe.net Tue Nov 1 09:31:51 2011 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:31:51 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 RIPEness - Production & Updates Message-ID: <4EAFAE77.60009@ripe.net> [apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, Following your feedback, we decided to make IPv6 RIPEness a production service. Please find a short update on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/ipv6-ripeness-production-updates We are currently also working on some new features. Stay tuned. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC From jari.arkko at piuha.net Tue Nov 1 18:41:59 2011 From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko) Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:41:59 +0200 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis Message-ID: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> Based on the discussion in the group today, I made a quick read of the beginning parts of 501bis today at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/other-documents/requirements-for-ipv6-in-ict-equipment And I have some comments: > Some parts of this section are loosely based on the NIST/USGv6 profile developed by the US government: > > http :// www . antd . nist . gov / usgv 6/ > There's a DoD *and* USG recommendation, you might want to mention both. I think it would also be useful to point people to the IETF node requirements RFC, as that defines the formal conformance requirements from a standards perspective (but of course does that only for general nodes, so the more specific rules for different device types in 501 and the NIST documents is very useful). The RFC is about to come out, the -bis version is replacing the RFC that was years old. > > Lists of Required RFC /3GPP Standards for Different Type of Hardware > > ... Required RFCs and 3GPP Technical Specifications ... > > Requirements for Host Equipment > > *Mandatory support:* > I'm comparing this to draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis, and there are some obvious differences. I think it would have been useful to point to this doc for the list of interface-type specific RFCs that are needed (RFC 2464 for Ethernet, for instance). > Optional support: > Revised ICMPv6 [RFC 5095] * This seems wrong. Its not a revised ICMP spec, it is deprecation of RH0. Draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis marks its as mandatory, and I think you should too. > /*Mobile node:*/In the context of this document a mobile node is a device that connects via some 3GPP specification (such as 3G, GPRS/UMTS or LTE). In situations where the network logic is being provided solely by a dedicated device (A) connected to another device (B), the specification refers to device A and not to device B. If the protocol logic is distributed (for example, a computer with an external Ethernet interface that performs TCP checksum offloading), the aggregate system is being referred to. There's probably a 3GPP specification and testing requirements etc that defines exactly what the rules for a terminal device like this are. You should reference that and ensure that you're not saying something different. (The expertise on the matter seems to be mostly in 3GPP, so you want to be careful in saying something unless merely referring to existing specs. Maybe you are already doing this, I did not get that far in the spec.) > * > > Neighbor Discovery [RFC 4861] * > > * > > > Updated also by RFC 5942, as noted in draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis RFC 4311 and 4191 are missing from the list of optional supports. * > > *Mandatory support:* > > * > > MLDv2 snooping [RFC 4541] > * This seems like an overkill for a consumer grade equipment (but I do support it for the other types of switches) I have to go to the social event now, will look at more things later. But my overall conclusion is that the document still needs more review... Jari From jouni.nospam at gmail.com Wed Nov 2 09:29:23 2011 From: jouni.nospam at gmail.com (jouni korhonen) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:29:23 +0200 Subject: [ipv6-wg] 501bis and some comments Message-ID: <007E9D02-1544-409C-BA13-D1E75A1DBE59@gmail.com> Folks, I got a brief look at 501bis on some parts, specifically what comes to Mobile Node (3GPP) parts. It would be good to make a check against TS29.061 on the actually supported & required RFC.. or draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-eps-08, which takes quite a detailed but condensed peek into 3GPP IPv6 aspects. Quick comments on DHCPv6. The DHCPv6 support for Mobile Node is only for IPv6 parameter configuration via stateless DHCPv6 RFC3736, stateful address configuration (for the Mobile Node) is not supported at all. I also have concerns on IKE and IPsec 'mandatory support' text for Mobile Nodes as that is not the case in today's 3GPP standards as far as I remember. Furthermore, listing both rfc3041 and rfc4941 is not needed as the latter obsoletes the former. On the references part I do not understand why also 3GPP2 is included. Earlier in the document and in the definition part it was made quite clear "Mobile Node" refers only to 3GPP. These are just comments that could be taken into account in some future revision of 501bis. I can actually help crafting the text ;) - Jouni -- Jouni Korhonen Nokia Siemens Networks From jan at go6.si Wed Nov 2 16:16:19 2011 From: jan at go6.si (Jan Zorz @ go6.si) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:16:19 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis In-Reply-To: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> References: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> Message-ID: <4EB15EC3.2080107@go6.si> On 11/1/11 6:41 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Based on the discussion in the group today, I made a quick read of the > beginning parts of 501bis today at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/other-documents/requirements-for-ipv6-in-ict-equipment > Jari, hi. Thank you for getting involved, I'm sure your input will be very useful in additional crafting of this document. Also thnx to Eric Vyncke and Jouni Korhonen for equally important comments and suggestions. > I have to go to the social event now, will look at more things later. > But my overall conclusion is that the document still needs more review... Authors of the document changed our mind slightly, as we think at least this three comment-sets needs to be addressed before publishing the RIPE-501 replacement. We will try to collect as many input during this Last Call and try to address remaining issues after 10. November. We would like to fire up a discussion based on latest comments and find out if this are the changes we would like to make in existing draft. This is our suggestion, but we'll leave to the chairs to take it from here regarding procedure and all other stuff... Cheers, Merike, Sander and Jan From marcoh at marcoh.net Wed Nov 2 18:37:25 2011 From: marcoh at marcoh.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:37:25 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis In-Reply-To: <4EB15EC3.2080107@go6.si> References: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> <4EB15EC3.2080107@go6.si> Message-ID: <8FF7FEE2-936B-4461-8B5E-F5EE7A252C98@marcoh.net> > Authors of the document changed our mind slightly, as we think at least this three comment-sets needs to be addressed before publishing the RIPE-501 replacement. We will try to collect as many input during this Last Call and try to address remaining issues after 10. November. > > We would like to fire up a discussion based on latest comments and find out if this are the changes we would like to make in existing draft. > > This is our suggestion, but we'll leave to the chairs to take it from here regarding procedure and all other stuff... Jan, Jari, colleagues, I think it is not a big secret that I personally would have loved to see this document published. However in our role as chairs we are there to guide the process and moderate the discussion. Although this document is not subject to the PDP process, we did issue a last call to verify there is rough consensus on the proposed text and in fact some support from within the community to go forward with this. I personally am very happy to see that this ad hoc process has had some result. The outcome may not be the most desirable one for some of us, but as the discussion takes place the document itself can only get better. Given the comments received on this list and via private channels, combined with the desire of the authors to discuss this further. We think it is safe to say that at this moment, even with last call still open, there is no consensus on moving forward. We would like to invite the community, together with the authors, to discuss the comments made on this list and to work on a new revision of this document. A draft which, in due time, will be subject to another last call before proceeding with the publication. We would like to thank the community for their support and feedback on this subject and of course the authors for collecting and processing this to be included in the document. We are looking forward to a hopefully lively discussion on this list to work out the differences. We will ask the RIPE NCC to keep the current draft text online for reference, until we are ready with a new draft. The document can be found on the following URL: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/other-documents/requirements-for-ipv6-in-ict-equipment Regards, Marco Hogewoning on behalf of the IPv6 working group chairs From jari.arkko at piuha.net Wed Nov 2 19:36:34 2011 From: jari.arkko at piuha.net (Jari Arkko) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:36:34 +0200 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis In-Reply-To: <8FF7FEE2-936B-4461-8B5E-F5EE7A252C98@marcoh.net> References: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> <4EB15EC3.2080107@go6.si> <8FF7FEE2-936B-4461-8B5E-F5EE7A252C98@marcoh.net> Message-ID: <4EB18DB2.5020808@piuha.net> Marco, Just to clarify (because I wrote the e-mail yesterday in a hurry): I think the 501 work is very important, there's a lot of demand for it, and we should get it done ASAP. The world appreciates RIPE and the guys doing this work. That being said, I do agree that some of the issues that me and Jouni raised probably should be fixed before final publication. I'm hopeful that it can be done relatively quickly. Jari From merike at doubleshotsecurity.com Wed Nov 2 19:51:50 2011 From: merike at doubleshotsecurity.com (Merike Kaeo) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:51:50 -0700 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis In-Reply-To: <4EB18DB2.5020808@piuha.net> References: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> <4EB15EC3.2080107@go6.si> <8FF7FEE2-936B-4461-8B5E-F5EE7A252C98@marcoh.net> <4EB18DB2.5020808@piuha.net> Message-ID: <5A2A36A8-0C92-4129-AF19-59966A869B03@doubleshotsecurity.com> Hi. The authors agree here and the intent is to do a quick turnaround but to ensure we address the issues which we felt were important enough to resolve/incorporate. - merike On Nov 2, 2011, at 11:36 AM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Marco, > > Just to clarify (because I wrote the e-mail yesterday in a hurry): I think the 501 work is very important, there's a lot of demand for it, and we should get it done ASAP. The world appreciates RIPE and the guys doing this work. That being said, I do agree that some of the issues that me and Jouni raised probably should be fixed before final publication. I'm hopeful that it can be done relatively quickly. > > Jari > > From fgont at si6networks.com Wed Nov 2 21:26:41 2011 From: fgont at si6networks.com (Fernando Gont) Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:26:41 -0300 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis In-Reply-To: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> References: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> Message-ID: <4EB1A781.9070606@si6networks.com> On 11/01/2011 02:41 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >> Optional support: >> Revised ICMPv6 [RFC 5095] * > > This seems wrong. Its not a revised ICMP spec, it is deprecation of RH0. > Draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis marks its as mandatory, and I think you > should too. +1 RH0 should be disabled by default. >> *Mandatory support:* >> >> * >> >> MLDv2 snooping [RFC 4541] >> > * > This seems like an overkill for a consumer grade equipment (but I do > support it for the other types of switches) +1 Overly (and unnecessarily) complex for a consumer switch. Thanks, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From job at instituut.net Thu Nov 3 10:39:13 2011 From: job at instituut.net (Job Snijders) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:39:13 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Some comments on 501bis In-Reply-To: <4EB1A781.9070606@si6networks.com> References: <4EB02F67.80809@piuha.net> <4EB1A781.9070606@si6networks.com> Message-ID: <07458DA7-C292-41A6-977C-E4DD41519DD0@instituut.net> Hi On 2 nov. 2011, at 21:26, Fernando Gont wrote: > On 11/01/2011 02:41 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > >>> Optional support: >>> Revised ICMPv6 [RFC 5095] * >> >> This seems wrong. Its not a revised ICMP spec, it is deprecation of RH0. >> Draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis marks its as mandatory, and I think you >> should too. > > +1 > RH0 should be disabled by default. I agree. To quote Joe Abley: "RH0 is evil". - Job From BECHA at ripe.net Thu Nov 3 15:52:32 2011 From: BECHA at ripe.net (Vesna Manojlovic) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:52:32 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 & privacy issues @ RIPE63 Message-ID: <4EB2AAB0.3060808@ripe.net> Hi all, Benjamin Erhart will have a whole session on the RIPE63 in Vienna dedicated to the discussion about privacy concerns with IPv6 adoption: http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/bof/ Thursday, 3.November 2011, 17:45 There is the remote participation possibility: webcast & jabber: http://ripe63.ripe.net/live/ Please help him by spreading the word, or commenting already in advance on his topics, or in some other way you think of :) Thanks, Vesna (Internet Citizen) (text version, for quoting in the reply message) BoF (Birds of a Feather) Thursday, 3 November, 17:45 ? 19:00 AK Vorrat?s position on IPv6 privacy issues Benjamin Erhart, Arbeitskreis Vorratsdatenspeicherung Germany IPv6 recently came into the focus of the German NGO Arbeitskreis Vorratsdatenspeicherung (Working Group on Data Retention). Since then, the working group has developed a position on how user privacy should be supported by ISPs and software/hardware vendors. To mitigate privacy issues with potentially life-long IP addresses for every user, users should be empowered to choose what?s best for them. Join Benjamin at this BoF to offer your input on this and discuss, among other topics, how: - The introduction of IPv6 influences data retention laws - Your MAC address is used as part of an IPv6 host address - Privacy concerns in Germany are going to influence ISPs? 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Is it me, but has somebody managed to play the webstream of RIPE63 in ipv6? Neither the webbased webstream, vlc or mplayer seams to do it on my machines (not on linux/ubuntu, not in opensolaris). Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. Vesna Manojlovic wrote: > Hi all, > > Benjamin Erhart will have a whole session on the RIPE63 in Vienna > dedicated to the discussion about privacy concerns with IPv6 adoption: > http://ripe63.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/bof/ > > Thursday, 3.November 2011, 17:45 > > There is the remote participation possibility: webcast & jabber: > http://ripe63.ripe.net/live/ > > Please help him by spreading the word, or commenting already in > advance on his topics, or in some other way you think of :) > > Thanks, > Vesna > (Internet Citizen) > > (text version, for quoting in the reply message) > > BoF (Birds of a Feather) > Thursday, 3 November, 17:45 ? 19:00 > > AK Vorrat?s position on IPv6 privacy issues > Benjamin Erhart, Arbeitskreis Vorratsdatenspeicherung Germany > > IPv6 recently came into the focus of the German NGO Arbeitskreis > Vorratsdatenspeicherung (Working Group on Data Retention). Since then, > the > working group has developed a position on how user privacy should be > supported > by ISPs and software/hardware vendors. To mitigate privacy issues with > potentially life-long IP addresses for every user, users should be > empowered to > choose what?s best for them. > > Join Benjamin at this BoF to offer your input on this and discuss, > among other > topics, how: > - The introduction of IPv6 influences data retention laws > - Your MAC address is used as part of an IPv6 host address > - Privacy concerns in Germany are going to influence ISPs? IPv6 > assignment > practices > -- KB905-RIPE Belgacom IP networking kristoff at belbone.net Internet, IP and IP/VPN From fgont at si6networks.com Wed Nov 9 10:00:11 2011 From: fgont at si6networks.com (Fernando Gont) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:00:11 -0300 Subject: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 security (slides and training) Message-ID: <4EBA411B.8060907@si6networks.com> Folks, We have uploaded the slides of my IPv6 Security presentation at H2HC 2011. -- The slides are available at: . That aside, on November 15-16 I'll be teaching a two-day IPv6 security training at the DEEPSEC 2011 conference (http://www.deepsec.net) in Vienna (Austria). Anybody interested please check out the details at: . and/or e-mail me off-list. Thanks! Best regards, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont at si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From mir at ripe.net Wed Nov 9 10:31:25 2011 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:31:25 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] IPv6 RIPEness - Sorted by LIR's Age and Size Message-ID: <4EBA486D.1050509@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, We just published a new article on RIPE Labs that looks at IPv6 RIPEness from a slightly different perspective - relative to the age and size of LIRs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/ipv6-ripeness-sorted-by-lirs-age-and-size Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC From mir at ripe.net Mon Nov 14 09:50:35 2011 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:50:35 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Hampered Eyeballs Message-ID: <4EC0D65B.3050208@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, Please see a new article by Emile Aben on RIPE Labs: "Hampered Eyeballs - Observations on Two "Happy Eyeballs" Implementations" https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/hampered-eyeballs Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC From marcoh at marcoh.net Tue Nov 15 08:47:10 2011 From: marcoh at marcoh.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:47:10 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Last call on the replacement of ripe-501 "Requirements for IPv6 in ICT equipment" In-Reply-To: <939ADC18-F12C-4C3F-849B-2A7E19943C79@marcoh.net> References: <939ADC18-F12C-4C3F-849B-2A7E19943C79@marcoh.net> Message-ID: <4F0BAF6B-412B-4C91-8454-3440E90F20E4@marcoh.net> [apologies for being late] Dear colleagues, As I already posted to this list last week in another thread, the authors have decided to incorporate some of the comments received during the last call. Which means that at this point we can not declare rough consensus on this document. We've asked the authors to discuss the requested changes with the community and produce a new draft, which when ready will be offered to this working group for acceptance. If you need a profile for IPv6 requirements, for now please keep referring to document ripe-501 (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-501). We would like to thank all of those who contributed both on this list and in private conversations, Greetings, Marco Hogewoning On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Marco Hogewoning wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > Following up on feedback received from the community during and after the publication of the ripe-501. The authors have worked on a replacement document, incorporating suggestions made by the community and clarifying some of the requirements. Prior draft versions of this document have been posted to this mailing list in the past months. > > The resulting final draft document is now published on the website and reachable via https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/other-documents/requirements-for-ipv6-in-ict-equipment > > We would like the community to review this document. Although this is not a formal policy proposal, we would like to issue a 4 week working group last call on this draft before publication. > > Minor changes like typos or formatting can be sent to the authors or to me directly. Please raise any questions or comments on the content to this list. Unless blocking issues are found on this text, it is our intent to publish this draft as a RIPE Document and to change the status of the current document ripe-501 to obsolete, with a reference to the new document. > > The authors will also present on this draft during the IPv6 working group session at the Vienna meeting. > > Please send any comments before Thursday November 10 2011, which is 4 weeks from now. > > Regards, > > Marco Hogewoning > on behalf of the IPv6 Working Group chairs From training at ripe.net Mon Nov 21 14:53:45 2011 From: training at ripe.net (Training Mailbox) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:53:45 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Announcement: RIPE NCC Training Courses Message-ID: <4ECA57E9.70209@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC invites you to register for one of our upcoming training courses: - The LIR Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to request Internet number resources and interact with the RIPE NCC. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/courses/lir/outline/ - The Routing Registry Training Course This course teaches LIRs how to use the RIPE Database for routing. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/courses/rr/ - The IPv6 Training Course This course teaches LIRs about the need for IPv6 and includes basic information on how to plan your deployment. A course outline is available at: http://www.ripe.net/training/ipv6/outline.html To see the location of upcoming courses and to register, please use the LIR Portal or complete the registration form on our website at: RIPE NCC Upcoming Courses List& Registration https://lirportal.ripe.net/training/courses If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us at . Kind regards, Rumy Spratley-Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC From mir at ripe.net Tue Nov 22 15:38:47 2011 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:38:47 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] New IPv6 related article on RIPE Labs Message-ID: <4ECBB3F7.1040503@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, Please see a new article on RIPE Labs submitted by Emile Aben. It contains interesting treegraphs showing IPv6 deployment in correlation with the an LIR's size: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/interesting-graph-ipv6-per-lir Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC From mir at ripe.net Wed Nov 30 14:28:43 2011 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:28:43 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] New article on RIPE Labs by Geoff Huston: Dual Stack Esotropia In-Reply-To: <4EC0D65B.3050208@ripe.net> References: <4EC0D65B.3050208@ripe.net> Message-ID: <4ED62F8B.5070003@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, Geoff Huston published a new article on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/gih/dual-stack-esotropia It builds on the "Hampering Eyeballs" work published recently by Emile Aben. Kind Regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC