From amlaverman at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 13:29:19 2008 From: amlaverman at gmail.com (Anneke Laverman) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:29:19 +0100 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi there, Can you please help me with the following questions on IPv6? I tried to contact David, but my e-mail was bounced. You'll find this e-mail below. Thanks in advance, Anneke Laverman ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anneke Laverman Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM Subject: questions regarding IPv6 To: kessens at nsn.com Hi David, I have been reading a lot about IPv6 on internet. Then i discovered the RIPE website. There's a lot more for me to read now. I am actually writing an article about IPv6 and i am trying to get a grip. I still have a lot of questions regarding the status of the transition and regarding the costs of implementing IPv6. Can you please help me on that part? Do you perhaps have a presentation that includes costs? I understand that the goal of RIPE regarding IPv6 is that by the end of this year an ipv6-only client is able to use all services offered by the RIPE NCC. I read this in the presentation of Mr Andrei Robachevsky. How large is this transition and what does it cost RIPE? How did Korea and Japan manage to implement IPv6, as i read in computable? Can you please give me some information? Or can you give me the name of the person(s) i need for answering these questions? Thanks a lot! Anneke Laverman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcmarasigan at epldt.com Thu Nov 13 03:21:38 2008 From: rcmarasigan at epldt.com (MARASIGAN, Rolando C.) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:21:38 +0800 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEB9@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> Hi, currently we are connected to APNIC ipv6 network ( tunneling over v4) . Is this sufficient to test/reach all currently online ipv6 networks ? Thanks Roland Marasigan From: ipv6-wg-admin at ripe.net [mailto:ipv6-wg-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Anneke Laverman Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:29 PM To: ipv6-wg at ripe.net Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 Hi there, Can you please help me with the following questions on IPv6? I tried to contact David, but my e-mail was bounced. You'll find this e-mail below. Thanks in advance, Anneke Laverman ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anneke Laverman Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM Subject: questions regarding IPv6 To: kessens at nsn.com Hi David, I have been reading a lot about IPv6 on internet. Then i discovered the RIPE website. There's a lot more for me to read now. I am actually writing an article about IPv6 and i am trying to get a grip. I still have a lot of questions regarding the status of the transition and regarding the costs of implementing IPv6. Can you please help me on that part? Do you perhaps have a presentation that includes costs? I understand that the goal of RIPE regarding IPv6 is that by the end of this year an ipv6-only client is able to use all services offered by the RIPE NCC. I read this in the presentation of Mr Andrei Robachevsky. How large is this transition and what does it cost RIPE? How did Korea and Japan manage to implement IPv6, as i read in computable? Can you please give me some information? Or can you give me the name of the person(s) i need for answering these questions? Thanks a lot! Anneke Laverman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcmarasigan at epldt.com Thu Nov 13 03:34:53 2008 From: rcmarasigan at epldt.com (MARASIGAN, Rolando C.) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:34:53 +0800 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 In-Reply-To: <5646B4B5-4D71-4D7B-8AD5-D567F40E3883@ca.afilias.info> References: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEB9@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> <5646B4B5-4D71-4D7B-8AD5-D567F40E3883@ca.afilias.info> Message-ID: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEE0@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> Hi Joe, Online to me means , publicly accessible ipv6 networks . Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley at ca.afilias.info] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:27 AM To: MARASIGAN, Rolando C. Cc: Anneke Laverman; ipv6-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 On 12 Nov 2008, at 21:21, MARASIGAN, Rolando C. wrote: > Hi, currently we are connected to APNIC ipv6 network ( tunneling > over v4) . > Is this sufficient to test/reach all currently online ipv6 > networks ? In the sense that connecting to a v4 network gives you access to all on-line v4 networks [1], yes, but less so. The less pedantic answer is "yes". Joe [1] i.e. as far as most people care, probably, but not really, or alternatively maybe, depending on what you mean by "on-line". From jabley at ca.afilias.info Thu Nov 13 03:27:27 2008 From: jabley at ca.afilias.info (Joe Abley) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:27:27 -0500 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 In-Reply-To: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEB9@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> References: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEB9@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> Message-ID: <5646B4B5-4D71-4D7B-8AD5-D567F40E3883@ca.afilias.info> On 12 Nov 2008, at 21:21, MARASIGAN, Rolando C. wrote: > Hi, currently we are connected to APNIC ipv6 network ( tunneling > over v4) . > Is this sufficient to test/reach all currently online ipv6 > networks ? In the sense that connecting to a v4 network gives you access to all on-line v4 networks [1], yes, but less so. The less pedantic answer is "yes". Joe [1] i.e. as far as most people care, probably, but not really, or alternatively maybe, depending on what you mean by "on-line". From jabley at ca.afilias.info Thu Nov 13 03:56:03 2008 From: jabley at ca.afilias.info (Joe Abley) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:56:03 -0500 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 In-Reply-To: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEE0@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> References: <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEB9@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> <5646B4B5-4D71-4D7B-8AD5-D567F40E3883@ca.afilias.info> <38C4A32342B63C49A35B89839601DCA112D2AEE0@svr-sclmail-04.pldt.pldtgroup.net> Message-ID: <959113AB-7AE3-4053-8203-7AD3F4F47FB8@ca.afilias.info> On 12 Nov 2008, at 21:34, MARASIGAN, Rolando C. wrote: > Online to me means , publicly accessible ipv6 networks . Right, so as I said the non-pedantic (in other words, the useful answer) is something like "yes". My annoying twittering is simply in recognition of the fact that the Internet is a seething post-organic mass, and any question which assumes it is consistent, simple or static is going to yield unsatisfyingly complicated answers, sooner or later. Joe From david.kessens at nsn.com Thu Nov 13 05:57:33 2008 From: david.kessens at nsn.com (David Kessens) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:57:33 -0800 Subject: [ipv6-wg] Fwd: questions regarding IPv6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081113045733.GF1256@nsn.com> Anneke, On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 01:29:19PM +0100, Anneke Laverman wrote: > > Can you please help me with the following questions on IPv6? > I tried to contact David, but my e-mail was bounced. You'll find this e-mail > below. I am not sure where you got the below mail address from as it is definitely not my mail address. One of the simplest and easiest ways to get a better understanding about IPv6 is to start by reading a book on IPv6 first. David Kessens --- > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Anneke Laverman > Date: Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM > Subject: questions regarding IPv6 > To: kessens at nsn.com > > > Hi David, > > I have been reading a lot about IPv6 on internet. Then i discovered the RIPE > website. There's a lot more for me to read now. I am actually writing an > article about IPv6 and i am trying to get a grip. I still have a lot of > questions regarding the status of the transition and regarding the costs of > implementing IPv6. Can you please help me on that part? Do you perhaps have > a presentation that includes costs? > > I understand that the goal of RIPE regarding IPv6 is that by the end of this > year an ipv6-only client is able to use all services offered by the RIPE > NCC. I read this in the presentation of Mr Andrei Robachevsky. How large is > this transition and what does it cost RIPE? How did Korea and Japan manage > to implement IPv6, as i read in computable? > > Can you please give me some information? Or can you give me the name of the > person(s) i need for answering these questions? > > Thanks a lot! > > Anneke Laverman