[ipv6-wg at ripe.net] Re: What is a site?
Carlos Friacas cfriacas at fccn.pt
Tue May 10 14:07:11 CEST 2005
On Tue, 10 May 2005, Gert Doering wrote: >> Moving the HD-ration seems to me more useful in terms of managing the way >> LIRs get their prefix, while changing the end-user prefix, is the easier >> way, but the most hurting one in terms of facilitating the grow of home >> networks (which in turn means innovation and more business for ISPs). > > Is anybody envisioning home networks with more than 100 subnets? What > are people doing there? It is very obvious to me... every household has a network engineer that likes (and needs) to play with routing... ;-))) >> Just look for the big allocations (/19, /20). They are fair with the today >> HD-ratio, but are they realistic ? I'm not asking to replace those, on the >> contrary, I'm happy that some people show clear deployment steps at a big >> scale, but what I don't think we should do now is a restriction, again, to >> the end users. If so, then let's go directly to NAT with IPv6 :-( > > Please be somewhat more specific why a /56 would be a "severe restriction" > to an end user. Vague handwaving doesn't help us find consensus here. I've already expressed that the current /48 is a restriction -- i would be more in favour of allowing LIRs to assing /56s, BUT allowing end-users to grow upto /48s without any questions asked. :-) >> On the other hand, do we really believe is a problem to have a protocol that >> might last for "only" 60-100 years? I don't really think so, as it will be >> probably replaced in 40-50 years already, because many more additional >> reasons (may be will not be IP at all). > > People never assumed IPv4 would last for 30 years... so the chance that > IPv6 will stick around for a VERY long time is quite large (if it happens > at all). IPv6 is already deployed in a very small subset of the public IPv4 Internet's nodes. Really, i'm a bit more concerned now about seeing that subset grow... But if IPv6's time span starts to be limited, i would rather work on IPv-whatever-next deployment :-) (my 2 cents and a swedish-half-crown...) Regards, ./Carlos -------------- http://www.ip6.fccn.pt/nativeRCTS2.html Wide Area Network (WAN) Workgroup, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN FCCN - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional http://www.fccn.pt "Internet is just routes (150665/657), naming (millions) and... people!"
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