[ipv6-wg at ripe.net] Re: What is a site?

On Tue, 10 May 2005, Gert Doering wrote:

>> Moving the HD-ration seems to me more useful in terms of managing the way
>> LIRs get their prefix, while changing the end-user prefix, is the easier
>> way, but the most hurting one in terms of facilitating the grow of home
>> networks (which in turn means innovation and more business for ISPs).
>
> Is anybody envisioning home networks with more than 100 subnets?  What
> are people doing there?

It is very obvious to me... every household has a network engineer that 
likes (and needs) to play with routing...
;-)))


>> Just look for the big allocations (/19, /20). They are fair with the today
>> HD-ratio, but are they realistic ? I'm not asking to replace those, on the
>> contrary, I'm happy that some people show clear deployment steps at a big
>> scale, but what I don't think we should do now is a restriction, again, to
>> the end users. If so, then let's go directly to NAT with IPv6 :-(
>
> Please be somewhat more specific why a /56 would be a "severe restriction"
> to an end user.  Vague handwaving doesn't help us find consensus here.

I've already expressed that the current /48 is a restriction -- i would be 
more in favour of allowing LIRs to assing /56s, BUT allowing end-users to 
grow upto /48s without any questions asked. :-)


>> On the other hand, do we really believe is a problem to have a protocol that
>> might last for "only" 60-100 years? I don't really think so, as it will be
>> probably replaced in 40-50 years already, because many more additional
>> reasons (may be will not be IP at all).
>
> People never assumed IPv4 would last for 30 years...  so the chance that
> IPv6 will stick around for a VERY long time is quite large (if it happens
> at all).

IPv6 is already deployed in a very small subset of the public IPv4 
Internet's nodes. Really, i'm a bit more concerned now about seeing that 
subset grow...
But if IPv6's time span starts to be limited, i would rather work on 
IPv-whatever-next deployment :-)


(my 2 cents and a swedish-half-crown...)


Regards,

./Carlos
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