From richard at shockey.us Sun Oct 4 21:20:04 2009 From: richard at shockey.us (Richard Shockey) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:20:04 -0400 Subject: [enum-wg] British Telecom ENUM service??? Message-ID: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> I thought I'd share here ... http://www.globaltelecomsbusiness.com/Article/2308733/Sectors/25205/Business -models-through-interoperability.html Richard Shockey PSTN Mobile: +1 703.593.2683 skype/AIM: rshockey101 LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/rshockey101 From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Wed Oct 7 12:42:34 2009 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:42:34 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] British Telecom ENUM service??? In-Reply-To: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> References: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> Message-ID: <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> Richard, this: Richard Shockey wrote: > http://www.globaltelecomsbusiness.com/Article/2308733/Sectors/25205/Business-models-through-interoperability.html is interesting reading, indeed? Maybe someone from BT on this list could possibly comment? Regards, Carsten Schiefner From tschlabach at gmx.net Wed Oct 7 12:48:06 2009 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:48:06 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] British Telecom ENUM service??? In-Reply-To: <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> References: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> Message-ID: <4ACC71E6.5010009@gmx.net> Hi! Sorry, maybe I missed something, but what is interesting here? This is an advertisement for a BT service offering. It does indeed start with an interesting statement (nobody managed to build a sustainable business model around VoIP yet) but I am missing new new idea here. An article saying "BT offers all their mobile and landline subscribers ENUM lookup on outgoing calls" would make a difference, though, but I think this is the news we can wait on forever. Regards, Torsten Carsten Schiefner schrieb: > Richard, > > this: > > Richard Shockey wrote: >> http://www.globaltelecomsbusiness.com/Article/2308733/Sectors/25205/Business-models-through-interoperability.html >> > > is interesting reading, indeed? > > Maybe someone from BT on this list could possibly comment? > > Regards, > > Carsten Schiefner From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Wed Oct 7 12:59:42 2009 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:59:42 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] British Telecom ENUM service??? In-Reply-To: <4ACC71E6.5010009@gmx.net> References: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> <4ACC71E6.5010009@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4ACC749E.2000703@schiefner.de> Torsten, Torsten Schlabach wrote: > Sorry, maybe I missed something, but what is interesting here? This is > an advertisement for a BT service offering. It does indeed start with an > interesting statement (nobody managed to build a sustainable business > model around VoIP yet) but I am missing new new idea here. YMMV - but I do think it is interesting news when an incumbent sort of officially announces the use of ENUM as a bridging protocol/technology between TDM and IP. I have not yet seen that being announced by any other incumbent, at least not in Germany. > An article saying "BT offers all their mobile and landline subscribers > ENUM lookup on outgoing calls" would make a difference, though, but I > think this is the news we can wait on forever. That indeed would make my day! :-) Ths statement wrt. ENUM was IMHO not really detailed, though. That is why I asked for clarification if possible. >Carsten Schiefner schrieb: >> this: >> >> Richard Shockey wrote: >>> http://www.globaltelecomsbusiness.com/Article/2308733/Sectors/25205/Business-models-through-interoperability.html >>> >> is interesting reading, indeed? That sould have read "is interesting reading, indeed_!_", of course. Best, Carsten From enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de Wed Oct 7 16:39:04 2009 From: enumvoipsip.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:39:04 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] Start of the ENUM WG session at RIPE 59 on Friday Message-ID: <4ACCA808.3030009@schiefner.de> Dear RIPE 59 attendees, due to the fact that the ENUM WG has a rather short agenda this time the two ENUM WG Co-Chairs, Niall O'Reilly and me, came to the conclusion that 60 minutes should be enough to cover all agenda items. We are therefore happy to be able to resurrect an old tradition - at least for this meeting - and have the Friday morning session starting at 9:30 only. :-) Please spread the word amongst those of your attending colleagues that might not yet have heard about it. Thanks and best regards, Carsten Schiefner ENUM WG Co-Chair From richard at shockey.us Mon Oct 12 19:14:43 2009 From: richard at shockey.us (Richard Shockey) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:14:43 -0400 Subject: [enum-wg] and now Sprint...??? In-Reply-To: <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> References: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> Message-ID: <01e501ca4b5f$7e93c430$7bbb4c90$@us> http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/sprint-establishes-new-voice-ov er-ip-voip-community-solution-provide-significant-cost From tschlabach at gmx.net Tue Oct 13 16:54:37 2009 From: tschlabach at gmx.net (Torsten Schlabach) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:54:37 +0200 Subject: [enum-wg] and now Sprint...??? In-Reply-To: <01e501ca4b5f$7e93c430$7bbb4c90$@us> References: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> <01e501ca4b5f$7e93c430$7bbb4c90$@us> Message-ID: <4AD494AD.6070700@gmx.net> Hi Richard, hi all! The press release doesn't talk about ENUM at all; neither the linked information page. Does anyone have any information about this offer like: - Who is it targeted at / What's the entry barrier. Let's assume I operate an small NG telco, can I use it and for what? - Does it provide QoS as I understand the traffic stay on Sprint's network which they control? - Having said that, how would the physical trunk look like? A leased line? Regards, Torsten Richard Shockey schrieb: > http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/sprint-establishes-new-voice-ov > er-ip-voip-community-solution-provide-significant-cost > > > From richard at shockey.us Tue Oct 13 17:31:30 2009 From: richard at shockey.us (Richard Shockey) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:31:30 -0400 Subject: [enum-wg] and now Sprint...??? In-Reply-To: <4AD494AD.6070700@gmx.net> References: <00ed01ca4527$adb8a200$0929e600$@us> <4ACC709A.3060205@schiefner.de> <01e501ca4b5f$7e93c430$7bbb4c90$@us> <4AD494AD.6070700@gmx.net> Message-ID: <01d301ca4c1a$3d696b20$b83c4160$@us> > -----Original Message----- > From: enum-wg-admin at ripe.net [mailto:enum-wg-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf > Of Torsten Schlabach > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:55 AM > To: Richard Shockey > Cc: 'Carsten Schiefner'; enum-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [enum-wg] and now Sprint...??? > > Hi Richard, hi all! > > The press release doesn't talk about ENUM at all; neither the linked > information page. It really doesn't have to mention ENUM they are using a Route proxy for Redirect which IMHO is not the most optimal choice from a performance perspective but what is not shown here is the database. > > Does anyone have any information about this offer like: > > - Who is it targeted at / What's the entry barrier. Let's assume I > operate an small NG telco, can I use it and for what? > - Does it provide QoS as I understand the traffic stay on Sprint's > network which they control? > - Having said that, how would the physical trunk look like? A leased > line? > > Regards, > Torsten > > > Richard Shockey schrieb: > > http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/sprint-establishes-new- > voice-ov > > er-ip-voip-community-solution-provide-significant-cost > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 221724 bytes Desc: not available URL: From racribeiro at gmail.com Thu Oct 29 00:24:36 2009 From: racribeiro at gmail.com (Rui Ribeiro) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:24:36 +0000 Subject: [enum-wg] Could Web 2.0 be the killer application for ENUM? Message-ID: <943c86c90910281624hec6c69cj1860277790ef145f@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Today I was thinking on diferente applications for ENUM. While VoIP is a nice (killer app), it "seems" to confict with established businesse models and services. What about if there is other applications that could use ENUM that are based on a completly different model? Some of the biggest rising applications on the WEB are Facebook, Twitter, ... and so on. They provide some kind of communication, in fact, it's a mix of: instant messaging, picture sharing, presence, ... and all together. In fact, there are some subset web applications that, together, can provide to the used most of their digital needs. If you have visited and used them you may know that there are some features that are better on one site, and others better on others. Not because they are technicaly better, but because you, as a user, like them better. Then I was thinking about ID's on this diferent web 2.0 services. If you have a bizard name, you are lucky, but if your name that conflicts with another user on the Internet, you are in trouble. You have to come up with lots of diferent ID's for diferent services. Then there is another issue... what if I don't like "facebook" anymore and now the hipe is on "bookface" (another web 2.0 application, similar to facebook)? My social network will just paralise on facebook, and I would have to republish on "bookface". What if my microblogging site starts to be other than twitter, what would happen to all my followers? What if ENUM could provide references to microblogging site, to presence site, picture sharing, ...? Yes, I now that Web URL's are already enabled on ENUM, but I'm thinking a little further... what if we could publish the URL with the application type reference, not just the WEB site. It happens already with VoIP, where the register states the type of protocol that should be used: SIP, h323, tel, ... Technically everything is possible on ENUM, as it is a swissknife where each blade is made out of RFC's. ;-) The benifit for the user could be the ability to point all the applications to the ENUM number, and the applications would then go and get the information on the right place. Why publish the microblogging link, the presence/status link and so on if you could just publish your ENUM number? All the followers would just following you any way, even if you change the application. For ENUM, it could be an application outside of the "voip box" that could push to the forefront of the innovation wave. Think of ENUM register as a personal ID, and not as a phone number... is this a bad assumption? I know that the number is given by the teleco industry/regulator and not by the state it self, but what is you phone number other than you personal ID? With portability services (hopefully) we could maintain the same number for ever, right? Thanks, Rui Ribeiro racribeiro at gmail.com From Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie Thu Oct 29 11:35:47 2009 From: Niall.oReilly at ucd.ie (Niall O'Reilly) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:35:47 +0000 Subject: [enum-wg] Re: RIPE 59: DRAFT minutes ENUM WG In-Reply-To: <4AE95EA0.5050901@ripe.net> References: <4AE59DA8.8030301@ripe.net> <4AE6D003.80702@ucd.ie> <4AE82425.2000902@ripe.net> <4AE831E1.2090305@ucd.ie> <4AE95EA0.5050901@ripe.net> Message-ID: <4AE97003.4050100@ucd.ie> Dear ENUM-WG colleagues, Susannah Gray at the RIPE NCC has let me know that > The minutes are now online as draft at: > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/enum/minutes/r59-minutes.html Please take a look and post any comments or corrections to enum-wg at ripe.net. Carsten or I will declare a closing date for comments in due course. Susannah, Thanks very much to you and your team, especially Alex! Best regards, Niall O'Reilly