AW: [enum-wg] COCOM & ENUM ...

At 03:33 PM 12/14/2004, John C Klensin wrote:



>--On Tuesday, 14 December, 2004 19:57 +0000 Jim Reid
><jim at rfc1035.com> wrote:
>
> >     Richard> ..maybe the carriers will go back to the ITU and
> > get     Richard> e164.int and we can end this issue once and
> > for all.
>
>Richard, independent of any other issues, e164.int would violate
>the narrow reading of "international organization" that ITU
>itself has been advocating for .INT.   Whatever "e164" might be,
>it is not an international organization under that, or any
>sensible other, definition.

Fair enough John .. but you understand the basic problem here. The pressure 
to force the architecture of 3761 into doing things it was not generally 
intended to do is creating yet another barrier to adoption.

At the request of the AD's I'm working on a draft right now that is trying 
to at least scope the problem and I'd be personally delighted if you'd take 
a look at it and add your thoughts and or comments. You certainly have a 
unique insight into the historical problem statement.


> > Hmm... How long do you think it would take ITU to set up
> > processes and cost-recovery mechanisms for this? IIUC ITU has
> > still not decided whether ENUM should be anchored in the
> > public e164.arpa infrastructure or a new TLD owned and
> > operated by ITU.
>
>Assuming ITU could get such a new TLD, which raises a whole
>group of additional questions.  To summarize them, don't hold
>your breath.

I wont I'm hoping to live a bit longer . :-)  I'm just thrashing around 
looking for a solution that meets the carrier requirements but at the same 
time does not break SIP behavior or 3761.


> > According to IANA, it's the IANA registry that manages .int,
> > not the ITU. BTW the DNS infrastructure for .int is nowhere
> > near the levels of robustness and global presence that .arpa
> > has.
>
>It is perhaps not an accident that .ARPA was chosen ;-/
>
>      john (one of the guilty parties)

yes indeed ...present at the creation so to speak .. :-)



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