[enum-wg] .de regulator starts proceeding against voip providers using +49 numbers for voip

I would like a comment from people in germany whether the same rules 
exists for enterprise-based TDM-based PBX:es where a company (based in 
Frankfurt for example) have numbers one can dial direct which is 
located outside of Frankfurt.

If you don't know, please ask someone.

I.e. what I have found is that these "rules" which exists in the 
"traditional world" are violated already now in many many cases, and I 
am kind of concerned that a provider have to follow so many rules when 
IP is carrier when they don't have to if traditional telephony is in 
use.

    paf

On Aug 20, 2004, at 08:10, Chris Heinze wrote:

> hi!
>
> seems like regtp (.de regulator) starts to proceed against voip 
> providers using +49 numbers for voip.
>
> a german article:
> http://golem.de/0408/33112.html
>
> basically the article says that regtp approached two of the 
> more-well-known voip providers in germany and ordered them to stop 
> using +49 numbers for voip users that 'are not located in the region 
> of the number' (i.e. a 'user from duesseldorf' (i have no information 
> on what regtp thinks that means) is not allowed to get a number from 
> hamburg).
>
> the german non-regional prefix is currently still not available. so 
> basically that means that german voip providers cannot use +49 numbers 
> anymore. a non-german gateway or gateway-provider might help - sorry 
> carsten, your folks might soon have to dial a foreign-cc-number to 
> reach you from pstn via voip...
>
> i beleive the two providers are present here - if so, any further 
> comments/info from that side would of course be more than 
> interesting... :)
>
> kind regards,
>
> 	Chris Heinze
>