From kurtis at kurtis.pp.se Mon Apr 2 12:27:10 2012 From: kurtis at kurtis.pp.se (Lindqvist Kurt Erik) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:27:10 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> Gert, the Euro-IX Board discussed this yesterday and we as an organisation strongly support this proposal! Best regards, - kurtis - On 29 mar 2012, at 13:21, Gert Doering wrote: > Dear Address-Policy WG, > (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > > thanks, > > Gert Doering, > APWG chair > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >> received on the mailing list. We have published the new version >> (version 3.0) today. >> >> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >> >> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >> section 5.6.2 >> >> >> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >> RIPE Policy Development Process. >> >> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >> >> >> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >> >> and the draft document at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >> >> >> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >> >> Regards >> >> Emilio Madaio >> Policy Development Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> > > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > Best regards, - kurtis - -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Christian Kaufmann Akamai Technologies On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Gert Doering wrote: > Dear Address-Policy WG, > (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > > thanks, > > Gert Doering, > APWG chair > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >> received on the mailing list. We have published the new version >> (version 3.0) today. >> >> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >> >> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >> section 5.6.2 >> >> >> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >> RIPE Policy Development Process. >> >> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >> >> >> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >> >> and the draft document at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >> >> >> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >> >> Regards >> >> Emilio Madaio >> Policy Development Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> > > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > From turchanyi.geza at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 12:40:10 2012 From: turchanyi.geza at gmail.com (Turchanyi Geza) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:40:10 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lindqvist Kurt Erik wrote: > > > Gert, > > the Euro-IX Board discussed this yesterday and we as an organisation > strongly support this proposal! > > Best regards, > > - kurtis - > Good to hear that the working group affected is supporting the proposal. Perhaps this is the most important. Best, G?za -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists-ripe at c4inet.net Mon Apr 2 13:13:03 2012 From: lists-ripe at c4inet.net (Sascha Luck) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:13:03 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> Message-ID: <20120402111303.GA72259@cilantro.c4inet.net> On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:40:10PM +0200, Turchanyi Geza wrote: >Good to hear that the working group affected is supporting the proposal. >Perhaps this is the most important. What is the current status of organisations wrt the PDP? I remember a shitstorm about that in a different context (2007-01?). IIRC the outcome was that organisations don't get a say except through their individual members? rgds, Sascha Luck From kjetil.olsen at usit.uio.no Mon Apr 2 13:18:31 2012 From: kjetil.olsen at usit.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:18:31 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: <4F798B07.4040108@usit.uio.no> We (Norwegian Internet eXchange, NIX) support this proposal! --Kjetil Otter Olsen, USIT/UiO and NIX Den 29.03.2012 13:21, skrev Gert Doering: > Dear Address-Policy WG, > (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > > thanks, > > Gert Doering, > APWG chair > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >> received on the mailing list. We have published the new version >> (version 3.0) today. >> >> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >> >> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >> section 5.6.2 >> >> >> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >> RIPE Policy Development Process. >> >> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >> >> >> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >> >> and the draft document at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >> >> >> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >> >> Regards >> >> Emilio Madaio >> Policy Development Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> > > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster From boggits at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 13:25:00 2012 From: boggits at gmail.com (boggits) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:25:00 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> Message-ID: On Apr 2, 2012 11:36 AM, "Lindqvist Kurt Erik" > the Euro-IX Board discussed this >yesterday and we as an >organisation strongly support >this proposal! 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Best regards -- Alex On Apr 2, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Christian Kaufmann wrote: > I support this proposal, as new IXs and the extension of existing ones are vital > for the future of the internet. > > Christian Kaufmann > Akamai Technologies > > > On Mar 29, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Gert Doering wrote: > >> Dear Address-Policy WG, >> (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") >> >> after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you >> have been VERY quiet in this review phase. >> >> Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough >> for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments >> really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. >> >> Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what >> you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose >> it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just >> specific aspects of the proposal as written now. >> >> thanks, >> >> Gert Doering, >> APWG chair >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >>> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> >>> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >>> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >>> received on the mailing list. We have published the new version >>> (version 3.0) today. >>> >>> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >>> >>> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >>> section 5.6.2 >>> >>> >>> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >>> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >>> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >>> RIPE Policy Development Process. >>> >>> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >>> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >>> >>> >>> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >>> >>> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >>> >>> and the draft document at: >>> >>> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >>> >>> >>> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >>> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Emilio Madaio >>> Policy Development Officer >>> RIPE NCC >>> >>> >> >> >> Gert Doering >> -- NetMaster >> -- >> have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? >> >> SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard >> Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann >> D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) >> Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 >> > > From chrish at consol.net Mon Apr 2 13:38:11 2012 From: chrish at consol.net (chrish at consol.net) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:38:11 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120402111303.GA72259@cilantro.c4inet.net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> <20120402111303.GA72259@cilantro.c4inet.net> Message-ID: <4F798FA3.1070207@consol.net> hi! On 04/02/2012 01:13 PM, Sascha Luck wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:40:10PM +0200, Turchanyi Geza wrote: > >> Good to hear that the working group affected is supporting the proposal. >> Perhaps this is the most important. > > What is the current status of organisations wrt the PDP? I remember a shitstorm about that in a different context (2007-01?). > IIRC the outcome was that organisations don't get a say except through > their individual members? ripe represents the community - the plenum being the sum of the individual persons. identifying a commercial IXP syndication as 'the most important' player regarding the question whether IXPs should be treated special regarding commons of the community is in my eyes - errr - "amazing" :) regards, Chris From gert at space.net Mon Apr 2 14:19:45 2012 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:19:45 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120402111303.GA72259@cilantro.c4inet.net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> <1DF1E8B5-9846-414B-88D3-709F3332FBD2@kurtis.pp.se> <20120402111303.GA72259@cilantro.c4inet.net> Message-ID: <20120402121945.GJ84425@Space.Net> Hi, On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:13:03PM +0100, Sascha Luck wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 12:40:10PM +0200, Turchanyi Geza wrote: > > >Good to hear that the working group affected is supporting the proposal. > >Perhaps this is the most important. > > What is the current status of organisations wrt the PDP? I remember a > shitstorm about that in a different context (2007-01?). > IIRC the outcome was that organisations don't get a say except through > their individual members? Technically, only individials speak up regarding policy developments. Nevertheless, for policy proposals involving other RIPE working groups (be it DNS for "addresses for anycasting" or EIX for this one), it's certainly welcome if the underlying questions are discussed in the respective working group as well, and members from there come here to state their opinion based on that discussion - especially given that these other working groups might have a better understanding of the technical issues involved. I think for IXPs, we can do quite well :-) - but for DNS related proposals, we had a few statements here where it was helpful to be able to draw on the wisdom of the DNS WG... Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 From pj at nix.cz Mon Apr 2 14:44:53 2012 From: pj at nix.cz (Petr Jiran) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:44:53 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: <4F799F45.4050208@nix.cz> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, NIX.CZ supports this proposal. Best regards __________________________________ NIX.CZ z.s.p.o. Petr Jiran - Technical Manager Vinohradska 184, 130 52 Praha Czech Republic e-m at il: pj at nix.cz tel: +420246083470 dw: +420246083471 http://www.nix.cz Dne 29.3.2012 13:21, Gert Doering napsal(a): > Dear Address-Policy WG, > (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > > thanks, > > Gert Doering, > APWG chair > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >> received on the mailing list. We have published the new version >> (version 3.0) today. >> >> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >> >> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >> section 5.6.2 >> >> >> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >> RIPE Policy Development Process. >> >> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >> >> >> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >> >> and the draft document at: >> >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >> >> >> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >> >> Regards >> >> Emilio Madaio >> Policy Development Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> > > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk95n0UACgkQdUnwxWgiigfH3ACeLDzSAblLn+xxTDDIHB7YZRq3 6bkAnAuV99f32iXmRZXrLD/UWPIwpZW5 =VRFZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fearghas at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 16:09:06 2012 From: fearghas at gmail.com (Fearghas McKay) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:09:06 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] Draft Agenda EIX RIPE64 v0.1 Message-ID: Greetings Here is our draft agenda for RIPE64 Slovenia, 11-12:30 Wednesday 18 April 2012 We are focussing on interconnections for this meeting and we have an interesting collection of talks that we hope will offer something to all WG attendees. We have a plenary slot on Tuesday, 17 April, 16:00 ? 18:00 to discuss the French ARCEP proposals, so we only have one WG slot for this meeting, we plan to revert to two sessions for RIPE65. A Meeting Admin Scribes Agenda Bashing Approval of previous minutes B Remco van Mook - Comparison of Interconnection Markets (15 Mins) C Arnold Nipper - Interconnecting IXPs (20 Mins) D Kurtis Lindqvist - The history of peering in Europe and what this can teach us about the future (25 Mins) E Interconnection Regulatory Update ( Provisional ) (10 Mins) F Harald Michl - Updated IXP Wish List - Last Call for comments (5 Mins) G Euro-IX Update (5 Mins) H IXP 30 sec updates (10 Mins) I AOCB From jfleury at franceix.net Mon Apr 2 18:08:14 2012 From: jfleury at franceix.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Fleury?=) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:08:14 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: Hi Gert, FranceIX supports this policy. Regards. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 13:21, Gert Doering wrote: > Dear Address-Policy WG, > ?(cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. ?If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > > thanks, > > Gert Doering, > ? ? ? ?APWG chair > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >> received on the mailing list. ?We have published the new version >> (version 3.0) today. >> >> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >> >> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >> ?section 5.6.2 >> >> >> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >> RIPE Policy Development Process. >> >> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >> >> >> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >> >> ? ? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >> >> and the draft document at: >> >> ? ? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >> >> >> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >> >> Regards >> >> Emilio Madaio >> Policy Development Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> > > > Gert Doering > ? ? ? ?-- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 ? ? ? ? ?Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 ? ? ? ? ? ?USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > From jan.torreele at bnix.net Mon Apr 2 18:27:02 2012 From: jan.torreele at bnix.net (Jan Torreele) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:27:02 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: Hi, BNIX (the Belgian National Internet eXchange) supports this proposal. Jan. 2012/3/29 Gert Doering : > Dear Address-Policy WG, > ?(cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. ?If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > > thanks, > > Gert Doering, > ? ? ? ?APWG chair > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 04:41:23PM +0100, Emilio Madaio wrote: >> >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> The text of RIPE Policy Proposal 2011-05, "Safeguarding future IXPs >> with IPv4 space", has been revised based on the community feedback >> received on the mailing list. ?We have published the new version >> (version 3.0) today. >> >> Highlights of the changes in version 3.0 are: >> >> -a new punctuation is used in the first bullet point of the proposed >> ?section 5.6.2 >> >> >> As per RIPE document ripe-500, "Policy Development Process in RIPE", >> the suggested change was not considered significant to require a new >> Discussion Phase. Hence the proposal moves to the Review Phase of the >> RIPE Policy Development Process. >> >> The draft document for the proposal has been published. The impact >> analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published >> >> >> You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: >> >> ? ? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 >> >> and the draft document at: >> >> ? ? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05/draft >> >> >> We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments >> to address-policy-wg at ripe.net before 3 April 2011. >> >> Regards >> >> Emilio Madaio >> Policy Development Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> > > > Gert Doering > ? ? ? ?-- NetMaster > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 ? ? ? ? ?Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 ? ? ? ? ? ?USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > From john at linx.net Tue Apr 3 08:59:26 2012 From: john at linx.net (John Souter) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 07:59:26 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: <4F7A9FCE.1070208@linx.net> On 29/03/12 12:21, Gert Doering wrote: > Dear Address-Policy WG, > (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") > > after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you > have been VERY quiet in this review phase. > > Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough > for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments > really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. > > Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what > you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose > it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just > specific aspects of the proposal as written now. Gert LINX supports this policy. Regards John -- John Souter, CEO, London Internet Exchange Ltd Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA. Registered 3137929 in England. Mobile: +44-7711-492389 https://www.linx.net/ "Working for the Internet" sip:john at linx.net From s.biernacki at plix.pl Tue Apr 3 10:23:14 2012 From: s.biernacki at plix.pl (Sylwester Biernacki) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 08:23:14 +0000 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: <4F7A9FCE.1070208@linx.net> References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> <4F7A9FCE.1070208@linx.net> Message-ID: <89D2A331-8FF5-43E4-9D16-BC1930BE6CBE@plix.pl> > On 29/03/12 12:21, Gert Doering wrote: >> Dear Address-Policy WG, >> (cc'ing the EIX wg due to "this is where the proposal came from") >> >> after a very lifely debate in the early stages of this proposal, you >> have been VERY quiet in this review phase. >> >> Specifically, *no* comments have been voiced, and this is not enough >> for the proposal to go anywhere - so unless I see a few more comments >> really soon now, we'll have to extend the review phase. >> >> Please let us know whether this version 3.0 of the proposal is what >> you want to see become policy, or whether you oppose it. If you oppose >> it, please make clear whether you oppose the general idea or just >> specific aspects of the proposal as written now. > Gert, PLIX supports this policy as well. regards, -- Sylwester Biernacki, CEO mail: s.biernacki at plix.pl mobile: +48 609 602 526 web: http://www.plix.pl/ PLIX Ltd., Aleje Jerozolimskie 65/79 00-697 Warsaw NIP/VAT-ID: PL7010109699 From harald.michl at univie.ac.at Thu Apr 5 00:20:33 2012 From: harald.michl at univie.ac.at (Harald Michl) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 00:20:33 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] New version of EIX-wishlist available Message-ID: <4F7CC931.4000902@univie.ac.at> Dear EIX-WG members, A small group of individuals began to generate a new version of the "EIX Switch Wish List". The draft is now available at http://homepage.univie.ac.at/~hm/eix-wishlist-DRAFT.pdf We'd like to make now a step to version 4.0.0. So if you find any mistakes, please tell us by April 20th (last day of RIPE64 in Ljubljana) - if you like to add or change something (content/structure) we'd favour to make that in a version 4.0.1. Version 4.0.0 will be only one step - as soon as it is published on the eix-wg webspace we can continue to adopt it according to actual needs and generate a new version. kind regards Martin Pels, Mike Hughes and Harald Michl -- Harald Michl Vienna University - ACOnet www.ACO.net - VIX www.VIX.at Universitaetsstrasse 7, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Tel: +43 1 4277 - 14078 (Fax: - 9140) HM3550-RIPE From fw at deneb.enyo.de Wed Apr 11 17:10:56 2012 From: fw at deneb.enyo.de (Florian Weimer) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:10:56 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Draft Document Published (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) In-Reply-To: (Christian Kaufmann's message of "Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:11:07 +0200") References: <1331048500.30490@mobil.space.net> <20120329112104.GA72789@Space.Net> Message-ID: <87zkai1eyn.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> * Christian Kaufmann: > I support this proposal, as new IXs and the extension of existing ones are vital > for the future of the internet. Regarding the "extension" aspect---does the proposed policy support multiple disparate peering LANs for a single host organization? To me, the wording sugggests "no", but it's somewhat ambiguous. From meeting at ripe.net Tue Apr 17 17:41:50 2012 From: meeting at ripe.net (RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:41:50 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] RIPE 64 Presenters: please upload presentations In-Reply-To: <20120417003444.8342.34BD96C8@mfeed.ad.jp> References: <386509494.2235.1334571410543.JavaMail.app-admin@okapi.ripe.net> <20120417003444.8342.34BD96C8@mfeed.ad.jp> Message-ID: <4F8D8F3E.5020206@ripe.net> Hi Tomoya, This should be fine. You can also check your slides in the EIX session before you present. Kind regards, Camilla On 4/16/12 5:34 PM, Tomoya Yoshida wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for your support! > btw, I couldn't finish my preso so tomorrow I would upload. > Is it ok for timeline? > > Presenter Name: Tomoya Yoshida > Email: yoshida at mfeed.ad.jp > Affiliation: JPNAP > Presentation Title: JPNAP update > Session Choose: 11:00 EIX - Wednesday > > regards, > > -tomoya > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:16:50 +0200 (CEST) > "meeting at ripe.net" wrote: > > |hi, > | > |several presenters mentioned to me that they had not seen the > |instructions for uploading their final presentations for accepted > |presentations. > | > |please go to: > | > |https://ripe64.ripe.net/presentations/upload-presentation/ > | > |and upload your presentation so that it will be ready for your talk. if you have any questions, see a member of the programme committee or one of the many RIPE NCC staff at the event. or send me private email and i'll endeavo(u)r to help you out. > | > |cheers, > | > |t > | > |-- Todd Underwood tmu at google.com Ads Quality and Commerce Site Reliability Manager > -- Camilla Meidell | Conference Coordinator | RIPE NCC Singel 258 | 1016AB Amsterdam | the Netherlands T: +31 20 5354433 | F: +31 20 5354445 | E: From yoshida at mfeed.ad.jp Tue Apr 17 17:57:20 2012 From: yoshida at mfeed.ad.jp (Tomoya Yoshida) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:57:20 +0900 Subject: [eix-wg] RIPE 64 Presenters: please upload presentations In-Reply-To: <4F8D8F3E.5020206@ripe.net> References: <20120417003444.8342.34BD96C8@mfeed.ad.jp> <4F8D8F3E.5020206@ripe.net> Message-ID: <20120418005720.8384.34BD96C8@mfeed.ad.jp> Hi Camilla, Thank you for your coordinattion. if there is not enough time it's ok for me to talk just first slide. Regards, -tomoya On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:41:50 +0200 RIPE NCC Meeting Coordinator wrote: |Hi Tomoya, | |This should be fine. You can also check your slides in the EIX session |before you present. | |Kind regards, |Camilla | |On 4/16/12 5:34 PM, Tomoya Yoshida wrote: |> Hi, |> |> Thank you for your support! |> btw, I couldn't finish my preso so tomorrow I would upload. |> Is it ok for timeline? |> |> Presenter Name: Tomoya Yoshida |> Email: yoshida at mfeed.ad.jp |> Affiliation: JPNAP |> Presentation Title: JPNAP update |> Session Choose: 11:00 EIX - Wednesday |> |> regards, |> |> -tomoya |> |> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:16:50 +0200 (CEST) |> "meeting at ripe.net" wrote: |> |> |hi, |> | |> |several presenters mentioned to me that they had not seen the |> |instructions for uploading their final presentations for accepted |> |presentations. |> | |> |please go to: |> | |> |https://ripe64.ripe.net/presentations/upload-presentation/ |> | |> |and upload your presentation so that it will be ready for your talk. if you have any questions, see a member of the programme committee or one of the many RIPE NCC staff at the event. or send me private email and i'll endeavo(u)r to help you out. |> | |> |cheers, |> | |> |t |> | |> |-- Todd Underwood tmu at google.com Ads Quality and Commerce Site Reliability Manager |> | | |-- | |Camilla Meidell | Conference Coordinator | RIPE NCC | | Singel 258 | 1016AB Amsterdam | the Netherlands | |T: +31 20 5354433 | F: +31 20 5354445 | E: -- Tomoya Yoshida From Thomas.Weible at flexoptix.net Wed Apr 18 16:09:37 2012 From: Thomas.Weible at flexoptix.net (Thomas Weible - FLEXOPTIX) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:09:37 +0000 Subject: [eix-wg] New version of EIX-wishlist available In-Reply-To: <4F7CC931.4000902@univie.ac.at> References: <4F7CC931.4000902@univie.ac.at> Message-ID: <3C73F7533E17CE4BA3558C3026772EC83E0150D5@postman.intranet.flexoptix.net> Hi Harald et. al., thanks for your talk today at RIPE #64. I found some minor things regarding the transceivers where I would be more precise. I would change Chapter 3 -Physical Wishes: ".... and optical power metering in optical ports" to "optical ports have to support Digital Diagnostic Monitoring (DDM) / Digital Monitoring Interface (DMI). Chapter 5.2 - Operational Monitoring: "if optic, then DOM support is mandatory" to "if optic, than DDM / DMI support is mandatory with an update frequency of 60 seconds or less and it should be possible to force an update by the user for the following metrics:" Furthermore you can add the following paragraph to Chapter 5.2 (this will give you more flexibility in the usage of different / newer types of transceivers): "Each measured DDM / DMI value can also be classified in "good" , "critical" and "bad". This classification is performed with the warning and alarm threshold of each single metric type. To define the classification by the Switch-OS the thresholds HAVE TO be taken from the pluggable module (transceiver) itself and NOT programmed / coded in the Switch-OS." [comment: the classification "good", "ciritical" and "bad" came out of my mind and do not follow any standards, etc. General speaking the classification is mainly used to decide if a log-event is raised/triggered or not by the Switch-OS] Thomas CTO Flexoptix > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: eix-wg-bounces at ripe.net [mailto:eix-wg-bounces at ripe.net] Im > Auftrag von Harald Michl > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. April 2012 00:21 > An: eix-wg at ripe.net > Betreff: [eix-wg] New version of EIX-wishlist available > > Dear EIX-WG members, > > A small group of individuals began to generate a new version of the "EIX > Switch Wish List". The draft is now available at > > http://homepage.univie.ac.at/~hm/eix-wishlist-DRAFT.pdf > > We'd like to make now a step to version 4.0.0. So if you find any mistakes, > please tell us by April 20th (last day of RIPE64 in > Ljubljana) - if you like to add or change something (content/structure) we'd > favour to make that in a version 4.0.1. > > Version 4.0.0 will be only one step - as soon as it is published on the eix-wg > webspace we can continue to adopt it according to actual needs and > generate a new version. > > kind regards > Martin Pels, Mike Hughes and Harald Michl > > > > -- > Harald Michl > Vienna University - ACOnet www.ACO.net - VIX www.VIX.at > Universitaetsstrasse 7, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe > Tel: +43 1 4277 - 14078 (Fax: - 9140) HM3550-RIPE