From fm at st-kilda.org Tue Apr 19 17:41:11 2005 From: fm at st-kilda.org (Fearghas McKay) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:41:11 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] EIX WG Draft Agenda RIPE 50 Stockholm Message-ID: Greetings The EIX-WG meeting will be held on May 5th at the RIPE 50 meeting in Stockholm - at a time and room location to be announced. Draft Agenda 1 Scribe 2 Agenda Bashing 3 Minutes Approval 4 IXP Presentations 5 RIPE NCC Presentation on Routing Registry & associated training courses 6 Switching Wishlist 7 AOCB Please send additional agenda items and requests for IXP presentation slots to me asap. I would expect that with the new format we will only have one slot available. Presentations should be prepared in advance so that they can be uploaded to both the ROSIE server and the local laptop to ensure a rapid turnaround of presenters. See you in Stockholm! Fearghas From fm at st-kilda.org Wed Apr 27 02:01:24 2005 From: fm at st-kilda.org (Fearghas McKay) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:01:24 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] if you want to present at EIX in Stockholm... Message-ID: and have not already sent me a note and got a response - then ... please send me a note asap ie before Thursday 28th April noon - as otherwise you may find that we are struggling for space as the final WG sessions spots are still a moving target :-) Our normal practice of taking late presentations may not be possible with the new meeting format! Deadline for presentations will be noon on Wednesday 4th May so we can have all the presentations online in advance of the WG session. Thanks f From job.witteman at ams-ix.net Wed Apr 27 09:14:23 2005 From: job.witteman at ams-ix.net (Job Witteman) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:14:23 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] if you want to present at EIX in Stockholm... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good morning Fearghas, I/we are completely in the dark on the new format and purpose of the EIX. If it is business as usual, you can expect an AMS-IX presentation as usual, but if the set-up is different, I would like to know up-front, so that we adapt our presentation. Please inform (I believe that most EIX-ers are as much in the dark as we are...) Job Witteman job.witteman at ams-ix.net http://www.ams-ix.net On 27-04-2005 02:01, "Fearghas McKay" wrote: > > and have not already sent me a note and got a response - then ... > > please send me a note asap ie before Thursday 28th April noon - as > otherwise you may find that we are struggling for space as the final WG > sessions spots are still a moving target :-) > > Our normal practice of taking late presentations may not be possible with > the new meeting format! > > Deadline for presentations will be noon on Wednesday 4th May so we can have > all the presentations online in advance of the WG session. > > Thanks > > f > > From fm at st-kilda.org Wed Apr 27 09:57:13 2005 From: fm at st-kilda.org (Fearghas McKay) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:57:13 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] if you want to present at EIX in Stockholm... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:14 am +0200 27/4/05, Job Witteman wrote: >Please inform (I believe that most EIX-ers are as much in the dark as we >are...) The WG session itself will be the same - but the process of deciding which slot we are in on Thursday is still ongoing. The whole RIPE meeting format has been changed to have a long EOF type plenary session with WGs on only the Thursday and Friday am - hence we will only have one slot. f From bill.norton at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 15:26:34 2005 From: bill.norton at gmail.com (William B. Norton) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:26:34 -0700 Subject: [eix-wg] if you want to present at EIX in Stockholm... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9856c35a05042706262f2a3653@mail.gmail.com> It sounds like you might not have a lot of time for the EIX WG, but I have a white paper I would like to share at some point (at this RIPE or another). It is called "The Great (Public vs Private) Peering Debate: Peering at 10Gbps" that focuses on an Economic Analysis of 10G Peering from the ISP Perspective. It is demonstrates that even with new and pretty expensive 10G hardware, peering makes sense financially after a few gbps of peering traffic. The Public vs. Private peering part is required for the research because the Peering Coordinator Community points out that the next best alternative to 10G public peering is peeling off cross connects or circuits and private peering, so the paper compares these two options. Bill On 4/27/05, Fearghas McKay wrote: > > At 9:14 am +0200 27/4/05, Job Witteman wrote: > >Please inform (I believe that most EIX-ers are as much in the dark as we > >are...) > > The WG session itself will be the same - but the process of deciding which > slot we are in on Thursday is still ongoing. > > The whole RIPE meeting format has been changed to have a long EOF type > plenary session with WGs on only the Thursday and Friday am - hence we > will > only have one slot. > > f > > -- //------------------------------------------------ // William B. Norton // Co-Founder and Chief Technical Liaison, Equinix // GSM Mobile: 650-315-8635 // Skype, Y!IM: williambnorton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fm at st-kilda.org Thu Apr 28 10:53:18 2005 From: fm at st-kilda.org (Fearghas McKay) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:53:18 +0100 Subject: [eix-wg] EIX WG Draft Agenda RIPE 50 Stockholm Message-ID: Greetings The EIX-WG meeting will be held on May 5th at the RIPE 50 meeting in Stockholm - in the Thursday 11-12:30 slot. Current Agenda 1 Scribe 2 Agenda Bashing 3 Minutes Approval 5mins for all 4 IXP Presentations AMSIX Gigapix LINX NaMeX Netnod NYIIX/LAIIX Union-IXP VIX 30 mins 5 RIPE NCC Presentation on Routing Registry & associated training courses 5 mins 6 Switching Wishlist 7 AOCB 5 mins for both 8 "The Great (Public vs Private) Peering Debate: Peering at 10Gbps" - Bill Norton This new paper focuses on an Economic Analysis of 10G Peering from the ISP Perspective. It is demonstrates that even with new and pretty expensive 10G hardware, peering makes sense financially after a few gbps of peering traffic. The Public vs. Private peering part is required for the research because the Peering Coordinator Community points out that the next best alternative to 10G public peering is peeling off cross connects or circuits and private peering, so the paper compares these two options. 45 mins -=-=- Any last minute changes asap because the RIPE NCC go to print today with the meeting agendas. Presentations should be prepared in advance so that they can be uploaded to both the ROSIE server and the local laptop to ensure a rapid turnaround of presenters. I will send upload information seperately to presenters later today. In order to fit the tight schedule we are looking to have all the presentations online before Thursday morning. Bill Norton is also presenting the peering game at 17:00 on Monday at the end of the EOF session - this is his 'Director's Cut' version tuned for the European market so should have some new surprises even if you have seen it before. See you in Stockholm! Fearghas From serge at euro-ix.net Thu Apr 28 11:38:04 2005 From: serge at euro-ix.net (Serge Radovcic) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:38:04 +0200 Subject: [eix-wg] EIX WG Draft Agenda RIPE 50 Stockholm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fearghas, Euro-IX update - 5 mins! Serge On 28-04-2005 10:53, "Fearghas McKay" wrote: > Greetings > > The EIX-WG meeting will be held on May 5th at the RIPE 50 meeting in > Stockholm - in the Thursday 11-12:30 slot. > > Current Agenda > > 1 Scribe > > 2 Agenda Bashing > > 3 Minutes Approval > 5mins for all > > 4 IXP Presentations > > AMSIX > Gigapix > LINX > NaMeX > Netnod > NYIIX/LAIIX > Union-IXP > VIX > 30 mins > > 5 RIPE NCC Presentation on Routing Registry & associated training courses > > 5 mins > > 6 Switching Wishlist > > 7 AOCB > 5 mins for both > > 8 "The Great (Public vs Private) Peering Debate: Peering at 10Gbps" - Bill > Norton > > This new paper focuses on an Economic Analysis of 10G Peering from the ISP > Perspective. It is demonstrates that even with new and pretty expensive 10G > hardware, peering makes sense financially after a few gbps of peering > traffic. The Public vs. Private peering part is required for the research > because the Peering Coordinator Community points out that the next best > alternative to 10G public peering is peeling off cross connects or circuits > and private peering, so the paper compares these two options. > > 45 mins > -=-=- > > Any last minute changes asap because the RIPE NCC go to print today with > the meeting agendas. > > Presentations should be prepared in advance so that they can be uploaded to > both the ROSIE server and the local laptop to ensure a rapid turnaround of > presenters. I will send upload information seperately to presenters later > today. In order to fit the tight schedule we are looking to have all the > presentations online before Thursday morning. > > Bill Norton is also presenting the peering game at 17:00 on Monday at the > end of the EOF session - this is his 'Director's Cut' version tuned for the > European market so should have some new surprises even if you have seen it > before. > > See you in Stockholm! > > Fearghas > >