From jaap at NLnetLabs.nl Wed Feb 26 09:15:23 2014 From: jaap at NLnetLabs.nl (Jaap Akkerhuis) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:15:23 +0100 Subject: [dns-wg] FYI, new ICANN SSAC advisories Message-ID: <201402260815.s1Q8FNW0009058@bela.nlnetlabs.nl> Dear All, Please note that two new SSAC Reports have been released in the last few days. They are: SAC064: SSAC Advisory on DNS "Search List" Processing and SAC065: SSAC Advisory on DDOS Attacks Leveraging DNS Infrastructure Both reports can be downloaded from . jaap From jim at rfc1035.com Fri Feb 28 18:24:17 2014 From: jim at rfc1035.com (Jim Reid) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 17:24:17 +0000 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security Message-ID: Sigh. Just sigh. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/28/seven-people-keys-worldwide-internet-security-web Well at least the article has a photo of Rick Lamb in a suit and tie, so it's not all bad... :-) From ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de Fri Feb 28 18:41:04 2014 From: ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:41:04 +0100 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5310CA30.80009@schiefner.de> I've seen worse pieces of journalism on Internet matters, Jim. MUCH worse! And no - it's not just the photo. :-) Happy weekend, all: -C. On 28.02.2014 18:24, Jim Reid wrote: > Sigh. Just sigh. > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/28/seven-people-keys-worldwide-internet-security-web > > > > Well at least the article has a photo of Rick Lamb in a suit and tie, > so it's not all bad... :-) From kim.davies at icann.org Fri Feb 28 19:06:05 2014 From: kim.davies at icann.org (Kim Davies) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:06:05 -0800 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75E71F03-24EE-4122-ACEF-0056E9B8B96B@icann.org> On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > Sigh. Just sigh. > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/28/seven-people-keys-worldwide-internet-security-web > > Well at least the article has a photo of Rick Lamb in a suit and tie, so it's not all bad... :-) I actually think the story does a great job of making a deathly boring procedure interesting and accessible. kim From jabley at hopcount.ca Fri Feb 28 19:07:26 2014 From: jabley at hopcount.ca (Joe Abley) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:07:26 -0500 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5572ADE8-C08B-4D2F-9AFE-AC25CD634CFA@hopcount.ca> On 28 Feb 2014, at 12:24, Jim Reid wrote: > Sigh. Just sigh. > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/28/seven-people-keys-worldwide-internet-security-web It?s not a horrible article, despite the thorough sprinkling of technical inaccuracies. It seems like a good outcome to have the physical security and the international pool of participants emphasised to this extent. Five hours is a long ceremony. Glad I wasn?t there :-) Joe From pk at DENIC.DE Fri Feb 28 20:07:47 2014 From: pk at DENIC.DE (Peter Koch) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 20:07:47 +0100 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: <75E71F03-24EE-4122-ACEF-0056E9B8B96B@icann.org> References: <75E71F03-24EE-4122-ACEF-0056E9B8B96B@icann.org> Message-ID: <20140228190747.GN21395@x28.adm.denic.de> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:06:05AM -0800, Kim Davies wrote: > I actually think the story does a great job of making a deathly boring procedure interesting and accessible. next week on DVD: season four of "The Big Key Ceremony" So, while, technically speaking, containing a couple of imprecisions(*), both the article and the video do transport a series of important points on the internationali[sz]ation and process/theat{re,er} aspects. I believe we've seen much worse reports in media that did not aim at the general public. There must be something about the vacuum cleaner, though. -Peter (*) Jim? From Brett.Carr at nominet.org.uk Fri Feb 28 20:20:28 2014 From: Brett.Carr at nominet.org.uk (Brett Carr) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:20:28 +0000 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't think it was that bad an article really especially if you try to view it from the point if view of somebody who knows nothing about Internet operations and/or DNS/DNSSEC. Brett > On 28 Feb 2014, at 17:26, "Jim Reid" wrote: > > Sigh. Just sigh. > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/28/seven-people-keys-worldwide-internet-security-web > > > Well at least the article has a photo of Rick Lamb in a suit and tie, so it's not all bad... :-) > > From jim at rfc1035.com Fri Feb 28 20:30:28 2014 From: jim at rfc1035.com (Jim Reid) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:30:28 +0000 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: <20140228190747.GN21395@x28.adm.denic.de> References: <75E71F03-24EE-4122-ACEF-0056E9B8B96B@icann.org> <20140228190747.GN21395@x28.adm.denic.de> Message-ID: <3A2993EA-7442-4E50-A82C-CF7240CA25FB@rfc1035.com> On 28 Feb 2014, at 19:07, Peter Koch wrote: > There must be something about the vacuum cleaner, though. Yeah. I liked that bit. Perhaps we can arrange for that vacuum cleaner a leading role at RIPE68? Assuming of course the Powers That Be will permit such a vital element of worldwide interweb security to be allowed out in public. ;-) From dougb at dougbarton.us Fri Feb 28 20:55:11 2014 From: dougb at dougbarton.us (Doug Barton) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 11:55:11 -0800 Subject: [dns-wg] the seven people who hold the keys to worldwide internet security In-Reply-To: <75E71F03-24EE-4122-ACEF-0056E9B8B96B@icann.org> References: <75E71F03-24EE-4122-ACEF-0056E9B8B96B@icann.org> Message-ID: <5310E99F.9030707@dougbarton.us> On 02/28/2014 10:06 AM, Kim Davies wrote: > On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Jim Reid wrote: > >> Sigh. Just sigh. >> >> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/feb/28/seven-people-keys-worldwide-internet-security-web >> >> Well at least the article has a photo of Rick Lamb in a suit and tie, so it's not all bad... :-) > > I actually think the story does a great job of making a deathly boring procedure interesting and accessible. +1, although I would have liked to see an explicit refutation of the drama-inspiring question of whether the key holders can use their keys to turn off the Internet. :) Doug