From Pierre.Verbaeten at cs.kuleuven.ac.be Fri Feb 5 15:30:32 1993 From: Pierre.Verbaeten at cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Pierre Verbaeten) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 93 15:30:32 +0100 Subject: european parliament Message-ID: <9302051430.AA21701@twix.cs.kuleuven.ac.be> Hello, After our discussion in Praag, I contacted the european parliament again: - they agree to register under be - they choose eppe as domain name. This abreviation is often used. As suggested in the meeting in Praag the name eppe should be reserved in other countries. Regards, Pierre From Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net Fri Feb 5 15:47:56 1993 From: Daniel.Karrenberg at ripe.net (Daniel Karrenberg) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 93 15:47:56 +0100 Subject: european parliament In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 05 Feb 93 15:30:32 +0100. <9302051430.AA21701@twix.cs.kuleuven.ac.be> Message-ID: <9302051448.AA28395@ncc.ripe.net> > Pierre.Verbaeten at cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Pierre Verbaeten) writes: > As suggested in the meeting in Praag the name eppe > should be reserved in other countries. The only way to reserve is to register. From rv at deins.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Mon Feb 22 10:58:31 1993 From: rv at deins.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (rv at deins.informatik.uni-dortmund.de) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 93 10:58:31 N Subject: zone-c not mandatory In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 22 Feb 93 10:43:58 +0100. <9302220943.AA04096@ncc.ripe.net> Message-ID: <9302220958.AA22722@meins.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> I agree completely. > I think Blasco has a point there and will implement this > unless someone cries "stop". for MX-only domains both name server and zone contact attributes are actually attributes of the parent (or an ancestor) domain. Cheers, Ruediger > Daniel > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 93 18:49:25 MET > From: bonito at nis.garr.it (Antonio_Blasco Bonito) > To: ripe-dbm at ripe.net > cc: staff at nis.garr.it > Subject: zone-c tag > > Hello NCC people, > > I think the update procedure is not right giving the following error: > > > domain: fis.uniurb.it > > descr: Universita' degli Studi di Urbino > > descr: Istituto di Fisica > > remarks: It is a public institution devoted to researches in some field s > > remarks: of Physics and Biomedical Engineering and teaching > > admin-c: Filippo Martelli > > tech-c: Flavio Vetrano > > tech-c: Pietro Dominici > > remarks: MX-only > > source: RIPE > > changed: domain at nis.garr.it 930217 > > WARNING: mandatory attribute "zone-c" missing in object > > A MX-only domain has no nameserver and therefore cannot have a zone-c > contact information. > I think that zone-c should not be considered a mandatory attribute. > > All my best. > - ---------- ---------- > Antonio_Blasco Bonito E-Mail: bonito at nis.garr.it > GARR - Network Information Service c=it;a=garr;p=garr;o=nis;s=bonito > c/o CNUCE - Istituto del CNR Tel: +39 (50) 593246 > Via S. Maria, 36 Telex: 500371 CNUCE I > 56126 PISA Italy Fax: +39 (50) 904052 > - ---------- ---------- > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > Ruediger Volk Universitaet Dortmund, Informatik IRB DE-NIC Postfach 500 500 D-W-4600 Dortmund 50 Germany E-Mail: rv at Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE Phone: +49 231 755 4760 Fax: +49 231 755 2386 From Piet.Beertema at cwi.nl Mon Feb 22 11:15:37 1993 From: Piet.Beertema at cwi.nl (Piet Beertema) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 11:15:37 +0100 Subject: zone-c not mandatory In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 22 Feb 93 10:58:31 N . <9302220958.AA22722@meins.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> Message-ID: <9302221015.AA10694=piet@kraai.cwi.nl> I agree completely. > I think Blasco has a point there and will implement this > unless someone cries "stop". for MX-only domains both name server and zone contact attributes are actually attributes of the parent (or an ancestor) domain. Agreed. This has been the case since ages for MX-only domains under .NL. Piet From bonito at nis.garr.it Mon Feb 22 11:38:01 1993 From: bonito at nis.garr.it (Antonio_Blasco Bonito) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 93 11:38:01 MET Subject: zone-c not mandatory In-Reply-To: <9302221015.AA10694=piet@kraai.cwi.nl>; from "Piet Beertema" at Feb 22, 93 11:15 am Message-ID: <9302221038.AA11575@jolly.nis.garr.it> > > I agree completely. > > > I think Blasco has a point there and will implement this > > unless someone cries "stop". > > for MX-only domains both name server and zone contact attributes > are actually attributes of the parent (or an ancestor) domain. > > Agreed. This has been the case since ages > for MX-only domains under .NL. > > > Piet Sorry, but I do not fully understand what you mean. I see two altenative possibilities: 1- the zone-c tag refers to the technicians who runs the nameserver of a "fully-managed" or "delegated to" domain. In this case it is to be considered an optional tag for "MX-only" domains. 2- the zone-c tag refers to the technician who runs the nameserver where the MX record of a "MX-only" domain is actually registered. In this case the above needs to be properly stated in the RIPE domain template instructions and zone-c should remain mandatory. I prefer solution 1 but also 2 is reasonable ---------- ---------- Antonio_Blasco Bonito E-Mail: bonito at nis.garr.it GARR - Network Information Service c=it;a=garr;p=garr;o=nis;s=bonito c/o CNUCE - Istituto del CNR Tel: +39 (50) 593246 Via S. Maria, 36 Telex: 500371 CNUCE I 56126 PISA Italy Fax: +39 (50) 904052 ---------- ---------- From Piet.Beertema at cwi.nl Mon Feb 22 11:54:03 1993 From: Piet.Beertema at cwi.nl (Piet Beertema) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 11:54:03 +0100 Subject: zone-c not mandatory In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 22 Feb 93 11:38:01 MET . <9302221038.AA11575@jolly.nis.garr.it> Message-ID: <9302221054.AA10772=piet@kraai.cwi.nl> for MX-only domains both name server and zone contact attributes are actually attributes of the parent (or an ancestor) domain. Agreed. This has been the case since ages for MX-only domains under .NL. Sorry, but I do not fully understand what you mean. I see two altenative possibilities: 1- the zone-c tag refers to the technicians who runs the nameserver of a "fully-managed" or "delegated to" domain. In this case it is to be considered an optional tag for "MX-only" domains. 2- the zone-c tag refers to the technician who runs the nameserver where the MX record of a "MX-only" domain is actually registered. In this case the above needs to be properly stated in the RIPE domain template instructions and zone-c should remain mandatory. I fail to see the difference. If there is no nameserver for the MX-only domain, the next higher nameserver takes that place and lists the MX RR's and becomes responsible for them. Piet From Francis.Dupont at inria.fr Sun Feb 28 23:22:27 1993 From: Francis.Dupont at inria.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 23:22:27 +0100 Subject: too small TTLs ! Message-ID: <199302282222.AA21367@givry.inria.fr> In France we have a lot of problems with the name service of some Japanese sites: the distance between us and them is a little bit more than 30 hops then with a too small UDP default time to live the packets are dropped in transit with a TIME_EXCEEDED error... A recommendation should be produce about this in the IETF DNS group. I propose to recommend that "on name servers default TTLs must be set to a value greater or equal to 60" immediatly in RIPE. Regards Francis.Dupont at inria.fr PS: for network operators: you should note the DNS packets in transit with TTL less than 20 and signal them to senders. This can be spread to other services. From Francis.Dupont at inria.fr Sun Feb 28 23:37:33 1993 From: Francis.Dupont at inria.fr (Francis Dupont) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 23:37:33 +0100 Subject: DNS support for IPv7 Message-ID: <199302282237.AA21396@givry.inria.fr> The RARE-WG4-CLNS is looking for an implementation of the DNS support for TUBA (cf the draft RFC from B. Manning). We can spread this demand to all the IPv7 proposals (TUBA, SIP, PIP, ...). Thanks Francis.Dupont at inria.fr PS (rumours): an implementation of Manning's proposal for TUBA and an other one for SIP could be available...