[diversity] Draft CoC and response guide
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Amanda Gowland
agowland at ripe.net
Fri May 10 10:56:08 CEST 2019
haha - double-posted. Literally had just hit "send" when I saw Brian's response come through. Great minds think alike and all that ;) On 10/05/2019 10:53, Amanda Gowland wrote: > Hi Mark, > > There is already text in the RIPE Meeting T&C that says: > > 4.7 The Registrant acknowledges, understands and agrees that at the > Meeting people from different experiences, backgrounds and views > exchange ideas in a respectful manner and it is expected from all > participants, including the Registrant, to demonstrate tolerance and > respect to everyone. If the Registrant fails to act accordingly, the > RIPE NCC reserves the right to exclude the Registrant’s attendance > from the Meeting, without being liable to pay any refund of the price > of the Ticket or any other damages. > > I can discuss with our legal team if the wording here needs to be more > explicit around the CoC here. > > Thanks, > > Amanda > > > On 10/05/2019 10:49, Mark Prior wrote: >> On 10/5/19 18:07, Brian Nisbet wrote: >>> Mark, >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: diversity <diversity-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Mark Prior >>>> Sent: Thursday 9 May 2019 13:36 >>>> To: Sasha Romijn <sasha at mxsasha.eu>; diversity at ripe.net >>>> Subject: Re: [diversity] Draft CoC and response guide >>>> >>>> On 9/5/19 21:52, Sasha Romijn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for all the feedback! As far as I’m concerned, the document is >>>>> now ready to be presented to others, unless any other members would >>>>> like to comment. >>>> >>>> Just a comment from the peanut gallery. >>>> >>>> How do the organisers derive their authority to take actions, >>>> especially those >>>> that deprive the violator of something, such as exclusion from an >>>> event >>>> without a refund, and how well will this stack up against the >>>> appropriate law? >>> >>> Article 4.7 of the RIPE Meeting Terms & Conditions ( >>> https://www.ripe.net/about-us/legal/ripe-meeting-registration-terms-and-conditions >>> ) states: >>> >>> "4.7 The Registrant acknowledges, understands and agrees that at the >>> Meeting people from >>> different experiences, backgrounds and views exchange ideas in a >>> respectful manner and it is >>> expected from all participants, including the Registrant, to >>> demonstrate tolerance and respect to >>> everyone. If the Registrant fails to act accordingly, the RIPE NCC >>> reserves the right to exclude the >>> Registrant’s attendance from the Meeting, without being liable to >>> pay any refund of the price of the >>> Ticket or any other damages." >>> >>> So that's pretty clear. It can be easily amended to specifically >>> mention the CoC when we get to that point. >> >> I would still see a need to tie the people saying someone has >> breeched the T&C's and this is their penalty to the "RIPE NCC". It >> could be just saying that the organisers are acting on behalf of the >> RIPE NCC. >> >> Mark. >> >> PS I was an organiser at AusNOG and some of the board took the >> "nuclear" CoC option and went to a lawyer to craft one. I didn't >> agree with that approach but the concern was ensuing the legal >> position was strong. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> diversity mailing list >> diversity at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity > > > > _______________________________________________ > diversity mailing list > diversity at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/diversity
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