[diversity] Opening the mailing list

Hi,

Just to let you know:

The archives have been deleted and the mailing list is now open for
everyone to subscribe (and the new archives will be public).

I suggest we wait until we have that RIPE Labs article ready before we
promote the list more? That way people have something to talk about and
to volunteer for :-)

Mirjam


On 17/05/17 15:30, Leslie wrote:
> Sounds perfect to me!
> 
> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:
> Cool.
> 
> And I think a blog post would be wonderful.
> 
> Brian
> 
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> On 17/05/2017 09:40, Mirjam Kuehne wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> So, I think we are in agreement to:
>>>>
>>>> - open up the list so that people can subscribe - delete the
>>>> archives
>>>>
>>>> Anything else?
>>>>
>>>> Vesna suggested to write a blog post for RIPE Labs that we can
>>>> then use to promote this the activity, the task force and the
>>>> mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Mirjam
>>>>
>>>> On 17/05/17 10:05, Shane Kerr wrote:
>>>>> Vesna,
>>>>
>>>>> [ warning: transparency advocate speaking ]
>>>>
>>>>> At 2017-05-15 14:08:12 +0200 Vesna Manojlovic <BECHA at ripe.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/05/17 13:01, Brian Nisbet wrote:
>>>>>>> Afternoon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll admit I was hoping we could keep this list as the
>>>>>>> taskforce internal list, while opening up the membership of
>>>>>>> the taskforce.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (but how would the taskforce communicate then?!?!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shall we open _another_ list, called "diversity-list at ripe.net",
>>>>>>  and make that completely open - open subscription,
>>>>>> open=public archives..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .. and then see what do we send there, and what do we send to
>>>>>> *this* smaller list; and if one or the other becomes redundant
>>>>>> in a year, we close one..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, I am ready to get our techies to do whatever we
>>>>>> agree: - clean up the archives - open the existing list to
>>>>>> subscription - re-publish the archives...
>>>>
>>>>> I'd rather just wipe the archives and start fresh. "Cleaning the
>>>>>  archives" is always going to be tricky, both time-consuming and
>>>>>  error-prone. I don't see any strong requirement to preserve the
>>>>> previous discussion.
>>>>
>>>>> If we need a closed list then we can set up
>>>>> diversity-cabal at ripe.net, diversilluminati at ripe.net something
>>>>> like that (akin to the ${WG}-chairs at ripe.net lists for RIPE
>>>>> working groups).
>>>>
>>>>> But honestly I think we are dangerously close to having the
>>>>> mindset of a small group of activists who are doing things for or
>>>>> to the community rather than being merely the most active folks
>>>>> in a larger group of like-minded people. Having a closed list
>>>>> strengthens that way of thinking.
>>>>
>>>>> Lets just be open and if we have problems we can figure out what
>>>>> to do, like Leslie said in a separate mail.
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>> -- Shane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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