[diversity] Options for gender on meeting registration

Hi,

1.
Very sensitive data to collect.
Really must be reviewed thoroughly by legal on how to collect, store
and use such information.

I personally would feel very uncomfortable answering any of these questions!

2.
Is it really that wise to even have that survey prior to a meeting in UAE?
It is illegal to be gay or transvestite there (unless something
changed recently)...not the most appropriate questions when
registering to visit a place where one if present will transgress
local laws.

Cheers,
David
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On 2 June 2017 at 16:49, Amanda Gowland <agowland at ripe.net> wrote:
> Hi Denis,
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> On 02/06/17 15:32, denis walker wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I am a bit late in getting into this group, but had a few pointers/concerns
> sent to me.
>
> I am not sure what the goals are with trying to measure all these metrics -
> gender, sexuality, religion, race, class. What are you going to do if you
> find only 1% of attendees are gay? Are you going to offer incentives to gay
> people attending to increase it to the population average?
>
> Did you watch the presentation from the plenary session on Friday morning or
> read the RIPE Labs article? Those might be a good place to start for some
> background info/context.
>
>
> I am also DEEPLY concerned at the rush to get some question(s) on the
> registration form for RIPE 75. What you are asking for is the most sensitive
> and personal information people can give. With some of the countries in our
> region, if this information gets into the wrong hands it can cost lives.
> There are serious, serious, serious privacy concerns here.
>
> Agree that it's sensitive info, which is why we want it to be opt-in...and
> the scope of the questions we'll include is being discussed.
>
>
> Amanda said "This data will only be used anonymously for metric
> benchmarking."
>
> Taken out of context a bit here, Denis. I wasn't making a statement, I was
> suggesting options on text to include for background information.
>
> Sorry, but before we get to how this data is going to be used:
>
> -how is it going to be collected
> -who is going to collect it
> -how and where will it be stored
> -who has access to the raw data
> -how will the sensitive data be harvested from the personally identifiable
> data
> -are there Dutch/EU data protection issues with collecting/storing this data
> in an identifiable way
>
> We have a legal team that will be involved before anything is announced or
> implemented. This thread is merely to find out the scope of a question we
> *could* include on the form *if possible* in time for RIPE 75.
>
>
> This is not something you announce on a Thursday with a deadline for a
> decision on Monday. I hope a lot more thought and care will be applied to
> potentially life threatening personal information.
>
> Nothing's been announced. I was asking for input to include in our
> discussion with SWE on Tuesday.
>
>
> cheers
> denis
>
>
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