[db-wg] geolocation and current purposes

Hi

It is optional for the resource holder, not for the end user or
customer. For them it is a question of whether or not the contracts
they signed permit the publication of this (personal) data.

cheers
denis
co-chair DB-WG

On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 at 11:30, Cynthia Revström via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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> It is an optional attribute and as far as I know it is going to stay that way.
>
> -Cynthia
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> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022, 10:13 Horváth Ágoston János via db-wg, <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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>> I, for one, with my regular internet user hat on, am strongly against any form of geolocation and consider it an invasion of my privacy.
>> I don't want any random guy on the internet to simply pinpoint the town I'm living in.
>>
>> Is there an opt-out from this? Users will demand that there is for sure.
>>
>> Just my $0.02
>>
>> Agoston
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 7:24 PM Carlos Friaças via db-wg <db-wg at ripe.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A small comment inline:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, denis walker via db-wg wrote:
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>>> (...)
>>> > So in what ways is "geofeed:" going to make it easy for network
>>> > operators to coordinate some activity? One of the ways network
>>> > operators have talked about how they want/need to use "geofeed:" data
>>> > is to provide content based on location of an IP address.
>>>
>>> Yes. Although *some* geolocation providers INSIST that their location
>>> assessment is better than the owner's network. They do this by ignoring
>>> messages or form data sent by owners.
>>>
>>> Keeping the attribute in the RIPE database may show ANYONE what is the
>>> location the owner says it is the correct location. And hopefully that
>>> should be the mandatory source for this information.
>>>
>>>
>>> > If a content providing network operator wishes to offer this content
>>> > to anyone in a specific location, that can be seen as a coordination
>>> > activity. The content provider can coordinate with other network
>>> > operators to establish that their customers are within this location
>>> > so they can access this content. If this interpretation is accepted by
>>> > the community then the context has changed. The legal team can now
>>> > reassess their advice in the context that the use of the "geofeed:"
>>> > data is now covered by the existing database purposes.
>>>
>>> Yes, please :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>>
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