[db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] objection to RIPE policy proposal 2016-01
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Sascha Luck [ml]
dbwg at c4inet.net
Mon Mar 7 23:37:14 CET 2016
I'm just going to go "+1" on that as I couldn't have said it any better. rgds, Sascha Luck On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 10:31:51PM +0100, Gert Doering wrote: >Hi, > >On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 09:02:26PM +0100, denis wrote: >> > The requirement for role: objects is also annoying >> > if all there is is just a single person - so admin-c:, tech-c: point to >> > "the person that is responsible for everything", while abuse-c: needs a >> > new object. >> >> Please learn from past mistakes. > >Yes, please *do so*. Do not design something that is going to win a price >at a computer scientist conference - design something that is easy to work >with. > >The current abuse-c: design is annoying, because it requires extra work >to get to the point of documenting what you want to document. So people >(remember: we want *people* to use that, and put useful information in >there) are annoyed, and stop bothering. > >I'm a bit more verbose about this, but if you ever wondered *why* abuse-c: >isn't the huge success people expected: this is part of the "why". It is >way too annoying to use. > >[..] >> > Maybe some extended outreach activity could be started to actually ensure >> > that some human is alive at ERX holders that the NCC had no contact >> > anymore since <x> years - but friendly, not pushy. They have been here >> > first, we have no authority over them. >> >> 2007-01? > >One of the early version of 2007-01 indeed covered legacy resource holders, >and was killed in WG chairs last call - for precisely that reason. The >final proposal that was accepted only covered resources given out by the >RIPE NCC. > >Precisely my point. > >Gert Doering > -- NetMaster >-- >have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > >SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard >Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann >D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) >Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
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