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Tim Bruijnzeels
tim at ripe.net
Thu Jul 2 17:09:50 CEST 2015
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] <dbwg at c4inet.net> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 11:42:12AM +0200, Alex Band wrote: >> Thanks for sharing your experiences George. >> >> I'm curious to hear from our Community about what they think >> about this mode of operation; simply create the route object on >> the inetnum holder's authorisation alone, inform the ASN holder >> that it was created and only remove the object if they object. >> >> It would simplify the authorisation model tremendously and save >> a lot of frustration and customer support tickets. >> >> Seeing that APNIC has positive experiences, would our Community >> support such an approach considering the up and downsides? > > Works for me. It's within the authority of the prefix holder to > decide whom to allow to advertise the prefix. If the ASN holder > doesn't want to advertise it, don't. > > Out of interest, do you propose to automate the removal of > disputed route: objects? How would that be authorised if > maintained solely by the inetnum: maintainer? The same authorisation that is currently required to do pre-approval of the ASN side of route object creation, could be used to allow 'post-deletion'. I.e. even though there would be no mnt-by for the ASN holder, they would be able to delete the object provided they have access to the relevant aut-num maintainer (mnt-by, mnt-routes). This way the ASN holder could use existing APIs and web-updates to delete the object in response to the notification of the route object creation (we can easily include a link to web updates). ASNs that want to be more restrictive could even automate querying the database for route objects with their ASN in the "origin:" and delete unwanted objects they find. Regards, Tim Bruijnzeels > > rgds, > Sascha Luck >
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