[db-wg] History lost ...
Erik Bais ebais at a2b-internet.com
Fri Feb 13 16:54:59 CET 2015
Hi Edward, The deleted objects from the RIPE DB with history (--list-versions and --show-version #) is what I’m currently looking for. For instance … ( I took the next particular inet-num for no specific reason but to specify a case where the object is no longer present in the database a the original inet-num .. ) 22.214.171.124/13 Was as a prefix assigned to an LIR … The LIR has been carving out prefixes to various other entities .. But no history on the original prefix 126.96.36.199/13 can be found anymore … % This object was deleted on 2014-03-18 15:01 If someone would like to know more about one of the new inet-num’s that came out of it .. Let’s say : 188.8.131.52/21 .. whois -h whois.ripe.net -- "--list-versions 184.108.40.206/20" rev# Date Op. 1 2014-08-22 15:45 ADD/UPD That particular inet-num shows a creation date … but not where it came from .. and it also doesn’t link to the upper original /13 .. and the original /13 historic data is also gone. In the case where someone might have a prefix that has been put on a blacklist for instance.. and that particular prefix has been on some blacklist for some years … split up in various other prefixes.. The new owner of the prefix can’t show that they are the original legitimate owner of the prefix .. and the blacklist operators that haven’t updated their RBL to the actual new reality will not move … I’ve seen this with several cases with SORBS for instance .. and as there is no history anymore … it makes dealing with these companies increasingly difficult.. In the case we talk about PA space .. there is still some trail of information on the IPv4 Transfer page .. statistics .. however if we talk about Legacy space.. which is not listed there … you are stuck … Regards, Erik Bais Van: db-wg [mailto:db-wg-bounces at ripe.net] Namens Edward Shryane Verzonden: vrijdag 13 februari 2015 11:34 Aan: db-wg at ripe.net Onderwerp: Re: [db-wg] History lost ... Dear colleagues, the versions feature is no longer in beta. You can query for the version history of a resource, a previous version of the object, and the difference between any two versions of an object. However, this feature does not list the version history for a deleted object, or for any versions before an object was re-created. If you have any questions for the RIPE NCC, please contact us. Regards Ed Shryane RIPE NCC On 13 Feb 2015, at 01:54, Heather Schiller <heather.skanks at gmail.com <mailto:heather.skanks at gmail.com> > wrote: Have you looked at: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/kranjbar/proposal-to-display-history-of-objects-in-ripe-database Not sure if this is still in Beta? I don't know the the process or policy of each RIR and am more familiar with ARIN. ARIN does not get rid of historical information. They keep the records and make the information available through a service called WhoWas. https://www.arin.net/resources/whowas/index.html --Heather On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM, William Sylvester <william.sylvester at addrex.net <mailto:william.sylvester at addrex.net> > wrote: Hi, I support this and also was wondering about associated objects like routing objects and in-addrs? This is also an issue for claiming an old block where a locked maintainer was used. It would be nice to have the unlocked maintainer apply for objects related to the block not just the inetnum for example. Thanks, Billy On Feb 12, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Erik Bais <ebais at a2b-internet.com <mailto:ebais at a2b-internet.com> > wrote: Hi, With the IP transfers going in full swing, it is quite common these days that the larger prefix size is broken up in to multiple smaller prefixes.. As the original prefix is split up, the IPRA’s remove the original prefix from the database .. and with it .. the history … Is there a way to preserve that data to be able to still lookup the data using –list-versions or –show-version # … Regards, Erik Bais -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/attachments/20150213/e0d9a342/attachment.html>
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