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Max Tulyev
president at ukraine.su
Thu Oct 5 17:27:30 CEST 2006
Hi! If to be seriously, I'm showing until weak schemes will be exist, people (even so serious) *WILL* use it. Education will *NOT* helps to solve the problem (so, try ;) ). I agree better is set off ANY password authorization. We can do it at least step-by-step, but leave it alone is the worst thing we can do. Potapov Vladislav wrote: > Hi! > I don't understand WHAT IT'S PROVES? Or you decided to say something > only to be shown? > > -----Original Message----- > From: db-wg-admin at ripe.net [mailto:db-wg-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of > Max Tulyev > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:16 PM > To: db-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: FW: FW: [db-wg] Proposal to deprecate CRYPT-PW > authorisation in the RIPE Database > > > Hi! > > Come on, begin your education career from your FSB (ex-KGB if somebody > don't know) colleagues: > > inetnum: 213.24.76.0 - 213.24.77.255 > netname: RT-CLNT-FSB-RF > descr: Federal Security Service of Russian Federation > descr: 3/6 Lubyansky Proezd Moscow 103045 > country: RU > admin-c: DIP2-RIPE > admin-c: ANH8-RIPE > tech-c: ANH8-RIPE > tech-c: DIP2-RIPE > status: ASSIGNED PA > mnt-by: AS8342-MNT > source: RIPE # Filtered > > person: Dmitry Pravikov > address: FSB RF > address: 3/6 Lubyansky Proezd Moscow 103045 > remarks: phone: +7 095 2248374 > phone: +7 495 2248374 > remarks: fax-no: +7 095 2244441 > fax-no: +7 495 2244441 > e-mail: pravikov at fsb.ru > nic-hdl: DIP2-RIPE > source: RIPE # Filtered > remarks: modified for Russian phone area changes > > person: Alexander Holushco > address: FSB RF > address: 3/6 Lubyansky Proezd Moscow 103045 > remarks: phone: +7 095 2244441 > phone: +7 495 2244441 > remarks: fax-no: +7 095 2244441 > fax-no: +7 495 2244441 > e-mail: root at fsb.ru > nic-hdl: ANH8-RIPE > source: RIPE # Filtered > remarks: modified for Russian phone area changes > > % Information related to '213.24.0.0/16AS8342' > > route: 213.24.0.0/16 > descr: RTCOMM-RU > origin: AS8342 > mnt-by: AS8342-MNT > source: RIPE # Filtered > > As we can see - there is *NO* mntner at all at *-c: objects! ;-) > > Potapov Vladislav wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >>> From: Gert Doering [mailto:gert at space.net] >>> Changing from CRYPT-PW to MD5-PW doesn't incur any >>> operational changes, and doesn't require key management and >>> crypto of any sort, but *will* improve security. >>> >>> >> No "operational changes"? Let's look at the plan to get an image that >> it's not so "problemless". I don't speak about RIPE resources which >> should support this change. About security: there was several >> opponents of your view already. I'm adding myself to them. >> >> >> >>> From: Gert Doering [mailto:gert at space.net] >>> Security issues in the IRR DB impact all of us (like "fake objects, >>> use that to leverage a routing attack"). >>> >>> >> Let's not say fairy tales about that. I have asked about REAL LIFE >> problems with the scheme. Nobody has answered. As for security >> issues... I think the better way to do this things is to educate >> people, convince them to have better way of security. Up to now it is >> only "small group words" and 3500 usages... >> >> I'm against the proposal. >> >> Vladislav Potapov >> Ru.iiat >> >> >> > > > -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)
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