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Andrei Robachevsky
andrei at ripe.net
Fri Apr 28 18:58:04 CEST 2006
Marco, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Apr 28, Nigel Titley <nigel.titley at uk.easynet.net> wrote: > >> E. "51.8 RIPE NCC" (return irt: by default) revisited (RIPE NCC) > >> It was eventually decided that the RIPE NCC client software would add the -c flag >> to default queries, but that default behaviour would remain as it is. > > This is very annoying. We had a clear consensus on the mailing list and > NCC even started implementing the needed server changes, but now the > proposal has been nullified with a motivation like "it would take too > long to be implemented". > The proposal and the agreement were slightly different, and I believe the minutes should reflect this. We propose to implement the desired behaviour as a -c flag first and after some use time make it a default query. At the same time it was decided that the web interface to whois will "prepend" the -c flag and thus irt object will be returned by default. We will be sending a detailed proposal to this mailinglist for review and comments. > Because of the following reasons I believe that the new proposal is, at > best, useless: > - the official RIPE whois client is irrelevant because it's probably[1] > used by only a tiny part of the users base, which very probably is > clueful enough to not need that irt records are forced down on them > - not being able to rely on support from clients and users was the > reason for the original proposal, and the new proposal fails the > initial requirement > > If NCC really cannot do anything better (but so far I do not believe > that it has clearly explained why) then please use your resources to > improve the WWW interface instead, which is used much more by > inexperienced users. > Creating and *prominently* advertising a new query form which would > automatically process abuse-mailbox attributes and irt records (and fall > back to admin-c/tech-c) for the purpose of finding an abuse contact > would be more useful than changing the default settings of the C whois > client. > > > [1] I now have another reason to ask RIPE NCC to publish some > statistics about the client info specified with the -V flag. > Andrei
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