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Ulrich Kiermayr
ulrich.kiermayr at univie.ac.at
Fri Jan 30 10:24:35 CET 2004
Hi *, >>Problem is imho that a simple mail-address would only scale downwards >>[i.e. for those with few netblocks]. From the discussion it seems that >>irt only scales upwards [i.e. for the ones with many netblocks who are >>willing to understand the system without a priori saying 'it's too >>complicated] > > > Ok, opening up the can of worms: > > The question will then be: what abuse address do we write into the objects. In > allocations for sure the contact of the LIR/Provider. But into the object of > the customer networks? The address of the customer's abuse department? Or, > here too, the one of the provider? Or both? And if we use the customer's abuse > department's address, are we going forward and demand that this address will be > mandatory and has to be given in the requests for new netblocks? And if we use > both addresses, do we need tags for them to indicate the escalation level? I'd say always to the 'best match' i.e. most specific netblock that has an abuse-c/irt (that is what -c is for!). anything else should be local policy from the LIR. > Probably we should head in two directions simultaneously > > 1. A short term solution, using admin-c: <email> to better the current > situation a little. I don't see how this is a solution to the above problem. > 2. A longterm solution with a proper hierarchy, clear defined policy, and > technically easy to administrate objects -> IRT. <cynical>tong term solution most probably means 'never'</cynical> If we do it we should do it properly in the first place. > Even though I would have to touch relatively many objects, I am still willing > to got for the admin-c: <email>. I disagree. Are there any other direct opinions apart from 'i can live with both' ? lG uk -- Ulrich Kiermayr Zentraler Informatikdienst der Universitaet Wien Network - Security - ACOnet-CERT Universitaetsstrasse 7, 1010 Wien, AT eMail: ulrich.kiermayr at univie.ac.at Tel: (+43 1) 4277 / 14104 PGP Key-ID: 0xA8D764D8 Fax: (+43 1) 4277 / 9140
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