[db-wg] abuse-c: proposal

Randy Bush wrote:
>>What is the difference between the following to answers from the
>>database
> 
> 
> the abuse-c: proposal does not require creation of a new object
> type, the irt: object.  it reuses the person: and role: objects,
> as the semantics, "here is who you contact," are really the same.
> 
> i don't think we want to differentiate the kind of people/groups
> who handle abuse from those who handle tech/admin things.  they're
> all just contacts.

Fair enough, thx.

What I am afraid of is having 2 things basically doung the same irt and 
abuse-c.

so maybe there is a way to 'merge' these two things (wild thinking of me):

Looking at the difference between irt and roles in general, there are 
actually quite few:

1. Role lacks of the two pgp-attributes.
    Might it be worth to put them as optional into that templates?
    [I'd say probably yes, because it might be useful in other situations
     as well]

2. Protection against 'illegal' referecing. (Meaning "Hey UCD has a nice
    role for abuse, i reference this role in my inetnums as well") There
    we had a discussion in the context of the org object, putting a
    generalized machinery (mnt-ref, ref-nfy) in place. IMHO this _should_
    be added (optional) to role/person anyway.

3. The -c flag: This could be incorporated with the irt as well. Or in a
    even more generalized way have a "whois -c abuse-c 131.130.7.44"
    returning the most specific inetnum containing an abuse-c, and maybe
    if useful extending the semantics to other attributes if useful.

If those three things are incorporated, abuse-c has all the features irt 
has, except for the creation policy. But this is up to discussion anyway.

I hope I make some sense here
lG uk
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