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Ulrich Kiermayr
ulrich.kiermayr at univie.ac.at
Tue Jan 13 12:27:58 CET 2004
MarcoH wrote: > On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 11:52:04AM +0100, Ulrich Kiermayr wrote: > >>Hi *, >> >> >>>Im not sure why it should be multiple? But I think most of us on this list >>>can agree with you that a valid abuse email address associated with each >>>inetnum in the database would be very welcome. >> >>Just a stupid question: how do you assure the address is valid in the >>first place, and after that stays valid, i.e. there is a human behind >>it reading it? (without putting additional workload on the NCC manual >>validating all of these) > > > Let's just limit it to be syntactically correct accoording to whatever the > rfc at that moment specify as 'syntactically correct'. > > There is no other way of ensuring that it's valid on a certain moment. > There is still some form of 'trust' involved as to the point that the LIR > inserting the address takes abuse serious. And I hope the majority still > does, so the system would work and people don't have to use other things > like mailing all addresses they can find related to an address upto and > including hostmaster at ripe.net. Sorry to be picky, but I still do not get it: then what is the advantage of abuse-c: abuse at here.there.nl over remarks: abuse-c: abuse at here.there.nl as you stated trust is required and you can't ensure anything; so having it mandatory is basically worthless, because someone who has to fill in something but does not want to will put in trash_my_abuse at hotmail.com, which is also perfectly valid, but does not buy you anything either. And for having a usable, maintainable automated system, it is easier to take what is there (IRT is not really hard to figure out - it _is_ basically like a maintainer), and write the apprpriate tools for that; since you would have to write tools anyway. I hope that makes sense. lG uk -- Ulrich Kiermayr Zentraler Informatikdienst der Universitaet Wien Network - Security - ACOnet-CERT Universitaetsstrasse 7, 1010 Wien, AT eMail: ulrich.kiermayr at univie.ac.at Tel: (+43 1) 4277 / 14104 PGP Key-ID: 0xA8D764D8 Fax: (+43 1) 4277 / 9140
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