From staylor at ripe.net Fri Jul 3 10:54:57 2020 From: staylor at ripe.net (Suzanne Taylor) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 10:54:57 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Online discussion: What Does the Digital Services Act Mean for You? Message-ID: Dear colleagues, As you?re likely aware, the European Commission has announced plans for a new Digital Services Act with the potential to affect many different actors in the Internet industry, and is currently holding an open consultation, which runs until 8 September, in order to solicit feedback from all stakeholders. We?re hosting an online dialogue next Wednesday, 8 July from 14:00-15:00 CEST to discuss the details of this newly proposed legislation and its potential impact on the technical community: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/what-does-the-new-digital-services-act-mean-for-you We?ll be joined by Eva Jordan Vankova from the European Commission, Sebastian Schwemer from the Centre for Information and Innovation Law (CIIR) at the University of Copenhagen, and Athina Fragkouli, who will share the RIPE NCC?s perspective on the Digital Services Act. We hope you can join this interactive discussion, when you?ll have the opportunity to ask questions and share your views. Best regards, Suzanne ________________ Suzanne Taylor External Relations RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From patrik at frobbit.se Thu Jul 16 17:46:53 2020 From: patrik at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:46:53 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Get a recap of last week's discussion on the Digital Services Act In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D1E5591-FC4B-4A58-BB90-F143C31A6262@frobbit.se> Dear Suzanne, Thanks for bringing this together. I missed this RIPE event but have participated at similar outreach events with other organisations. I find it being somewhat depressing that various things are discussed related to (for example) "what platforms should do with, and what their responsibility is in relation with, illegal content". People write long texts about this, including long presentations from the responsible party at COM. The point I have trouble with is that what we SHOULD discuss is to start with for example: - What is "platform" - What is "illegal" (and who makes the decision) When I at the last meeting with COM brought this up I got the response that "what is illegal is easy, it is decided by the law". This is an indication to me that the full problem is not understood. When you have a transaction that include at multiple jurisdictions, what is illegal is not that easy to say, and even harder to know who is responsible to make the call. As long as we do not agree on the fundamental definitions, we can not move forward. On top of that, the proposal is too much a mix between "what we would like to have" (a goal) and "what changes do we accept to the current regime" (how to reach the goal). It would be, according to my view, much easier to agree on a new act on digital services if we because of this divided the discussion around: 1. Definitions, which includes an architecture 2. The goal, how we would have defined a green field solution 3. How to walk towards the goal, from where we are today At the moment, everything is mixed up, and as long as COM (as in the last presentation I saw) started with the baseline that "platforms are evil, they are from USA an China and steal all money from Europe" then I ask whether we have the same goal. FWIW: We have some large players in Europe as well (which are ignored) and with such a view, the barrier of entry for new (European) players will continue to be high. Maybe we instead should see what we really can do in Europe, and build on that? Patrik -- somewhat disappointed and without real ideas on what to do next On 16 Jul 2020, at 15:54, Suzanne Taylor wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > The European Commission?s upcoming Digital Services Act will impact many of us, and in ways that aren?t yet fully understood. Find out what we discussed during our RIPE NCC Open House last week, when we brought the community together to ask questions, share ideas and discuss concerns about this wide-reaching newly proposed legislation. > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/what-the-digital-services-act-means-for-all-of-us-a-community-discussion > > Kind regards, > > Suzanne Taylor > RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From BECHA at ripe.net Wed Jul 29 13:34:22 2020 From: BECHA at ripe.net (Vesna Manojlovic) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:34:22 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Interesting conference going on live this week: HOPE2020 Message-ID: <6ecfd73c-e6c3-27eb-c378-5e17c1bd3847@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, due to pandemic, this year's H.O.P.E. conference is being held on-line, and is therefore accessible to those who could not participate before. * Hackers On Planet Earth * from July 25th to August 2nd, 2020 * https://www.hope.net/ There are many talks that are relevant for the RIPE Community; here is a collection of my personal recommendations: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/becha/reporting-live-from-hope2020-online-conference Kind regards, Vesna Manojlovic Community Builder RIPE NCC