From mir at ripe.net Mon Nov 5 16:56:45 2018 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 16:56:45 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You Message-ID: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, In recent years, there?s been a trend towards increased EU regulation with the potential to impact more actors across the Internet landscape. Here, we give a brief overview of the most pertinent policies currently being proposed, debated and implemented in the European Union: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/how-eu-regulation-affects-you Kind regards, Mirjam K?hne RIPE NCC From ford at isoc.org Mon Nov 5 17:55:36 2018 From: ford at isoc.org (Mat Ford) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 16:55:36 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> Message-ID: <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> Thanks Mirjam. I posted a comment on the website, but I guess it might make more sense to share my reaction here: Is the RIPE NCC response to the Dutch regulator regarding the definition of an essential service operator public? Also, you say, "Data collection restrictions that could hinder the development of AI and the IoT." I think a lot of European citizens would prefer that the development of AI and IoT not be at the expense of their personal data becoming a private economic resource. Why does the RIPE NCC believe that, "the new ePrivacy text ... takes a restrictive approach to metadata and content data processing, to the point that the current provisions would have a negative impact on the development of things like AI, IoT and big data business.? Regards, Mat > On 5 Nov 2018, at 22:56, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > In recent years, there?s been a trend towards increased EU regulation > with the potential to impact more actors across the Internet landscape. > Here, we give a brief overview of the most pertinent policies currently > being proposed, debated and implemented in the European Union: > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/how-eu-regulation-affects-you > > Kind regards, > Mirjam K?hne > RIPE NCC > From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 23:25:46 2018 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2018 23:25:46 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> Message-ID: <46073679-025B-4F81-B4E2-DCA452936627@gmail.com> People might also want to look at BEREC?s draft work programme for 2019. See here: https://berec.europa.eu The draft WP has been published for consultation. But I guess the deadline is now way too short for any consolidated response. However BEREC is proposing to work on many of our old favourites, including network neutrality, network termination points, very high-capacity networks, 5G, IoT and ?OTT" services. Some of the work items will be subject to further consultation. So this can be seen as a sort of heads-up? Gordon > On 5 Nov 2018, at 16:56, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > In recent years, there?s been a trend towards increased EU regulation > with the potential to impact more actors across the Internet landscape. > Here, we give a brief overview of the most pertinent policies currently > being proposed, debated and implemented in the European Union: > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/how-eu-regulation-affects-you > > Kind regards, > Mirjam K?hne > RIPE NCC > From chrisb at ripe.net Tue Nov 6 05:45:29 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 08:45:29 +0400 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> Message-ID: Hi Matt, all, Jumping into the discussion here, but I can hopefully shed some light in response to your questions: > On 5 Nov 2018, at 20:55, Mat Ford wrote: > > Thanks Mirjam. I posted a comment on the website, but I guess it might make more sense to share my reaction here: > > Is the RIPE NCC response to the Dutch regulator regarding the definition of an essential service operator public? At this point, the communication with the Dutch regulator has been of an informal nature. We plan to communicate more explicitly to the community when the official decision regarding Dutch essential services is made public. However, the key points in our communication have centred around the fact that a single root server operator, due to the distributed nature of the DNS, should not be considered an Operator of Essential Services under the NIS Directive. > > Also, you say, "Data collection restrictions that could hinder the development of AI and the IoT." I think a lot of European citizens would prefer that the development of AI and IoT not be at the expense of their personal data becoming a private economic resource. Why does the RIPE NCC believe that, "the new ePrivacy text ... takes a restrictive approach to metadata and content data processing, to the point that the current provisions would have a negative impact on the development of things like AI, IoT and big data business.? To be clear, the RIPE NCC does not take a position on whether such regulations are good or bad - our goal is to raise awareness with our community and membership of measures that could affect their operations. We believe (based on our discussions with our contacts and consulting agency in Brussels) that the current proposals would have an impact on development in these spaces, but as you note, this may well be in line with the broader preferences of the community. The key point for us is that our community (members of which are involved in the development of IoT and big data applications) be aware of this potential impact. Cheers Chris ?? Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC > > Regards, > Mat > >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 22:56, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> In recent years, there?s been a trend towards increased EU regulation >> with the potential to impact more actors across the Internet landscape. >> Here, we give a brief overview of the most pertinent policies currently >> being proposed, debated and implemented in the European Union: >> >> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/how-eu-regulation-affects-you >> >> Kind regards, >> Mirjam K?hne >> RIPE NCC >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: From nick at inex.ie Tue Nov 6 12:12:46 2018 From: nick at inex.ie (Nick Hilliard) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 11:12:46 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> Message-ID: <3722d317-233b-40f6-9e13-4a19f0144579@inex.ie> Chris Buckridge wrote on 06/11/2018 04:45: > At this point, the communication with the Dutch regulator has been of > an informal nature. We plan to communicate more explicitly to the > community when the official decision regarding Dutch essential > services is made public. However, the key points in our communication > have centred around the fact that a single root server operator, due > to the distributed nature of the DNS, should not be considered an > Operator of Essential Services under the NIS Directive. Hi Chris, has the dutch regulator published their criteria for being selected as an OES? Nick From chrisb at ripe.net Tue Nov 6 14:13:36 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 17:13:36 +0400 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <3722d317-233b-40f6-9e13-4a19f0144579@inex.ie> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> <3722d317-233b-40f6-9e13-4a19f0144579@inex.ie> Message-ID: <625FC8F3-34DD-49E1-8633-D1DE20B10931@ripe.net> > On 6 Nov 2018, at 15:12, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Chris Buckridge wrote on 06/11/2018 04:45: >> At this point, the communication with the Dutch regulator has been of >> an informal nature. We plan to communicate more explicitly to the >> community when the official decision regarding Dutch essential >> services is made public. However, the key points in our communication >> have centred around the fact that a single root server operator, due >> to the distributed nature of the DNS, should not be considered an >> Operator of Essential Services under the NIS Directive. > Hi Chris, > > has the dutch regulator published their criteria for being selected as an OES? > > Nick > Hi Nick, From our conversation with the Dutch competent authority it wasn?t clear, but we aren?t aware of any specific Dutch requirements. Earlier on, however, ENISA published a number of guidelines and requirements that member states can use in evaluating operators and services against the NIS Directive requirements - these are published here: https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/critical-information-infrastructures-and-services/cii/nis-directive Also, there was a presentation by the Dutch National Cyber Security Centre during RIPE 74, in which they explained a bit more about the purpose and objectives of the directive and their views of what would be considered essential services. A recording and the slides are available from https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/135/ Cheers Chris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This expressly excluded DNS root servers. But not busy TLD or recursive DNS servers: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/636207/NIS_Directive_-_Public_Consultation__1_.pdf Here's the guidance for competent authorities (Ofcom in the case of DNS and IXP providers). This also has some info on the criteria: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/701050/NIS_-_Guidance_for_Competent_Authorities.pdf As always, how an EU Directive gets implemented and enforced varies from country to country. So consult the prevailing national authorities for definitive advice. From nick at inex.ie Tue Nov 6 23:30:13 2018 From: nick at inex.ie (Nick Hilliard) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 22:30:13 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <625FC8F3-34DD-49E1-8633-D1DE20B10931@ripe.net> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> <3722d317-233b-40f6-9e13-4a19f0144579@inex.ie> <625FC8F3-34DD-49E1-8633-D1DE20B10931@ripe.net> Message-ID: <9448c2fa-5bcc-9b01-9af0-65c89988f670@inex.ie> Hi Chris, unfortunately, "Identification criteria" is the only guideline bullet point on that web page which is missing a hyperlink, and google throws up nothing interesting on the ENISA web site. It seems that information on this is in short supply Nick > Chris Buckridge > 6 November 2018 at 13:13 > > > Hi Nick, > > From our conversation with the Dutch competent authority it wasn?t > clear, but we aren?t aware of any specific Dutch requirements. > > Earlier on, however, ENISA published a number of guidelines and > requirements that member states can use in evaluating operators and > services against the NIS Directive requirements - these are published > here: > https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/critical-information-infrastructures-and-services/cii/nis-directive > > Also, there was a presentation by the Dutch National Cyber Security > Centre during RIPE 74, in which they explained a bit more about the > purpose and objectives of the directive and their views of what would > be considered essential services. A recording and the slides are > available from https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/135/ > > Cheers > Chris > > > Chris Buckridge > 6 November 2018 at 04:45 > Hi Matt, all, > > Jumping into the discussion here, but I can hopefully shed some light in response to your questions: > > >> On 5 Nov 2018, at 20:55, Mat Ford wrote: >> >> Thanks Mirjam. I posted a comment on the website, but I guess it might make more sense to share my reaction here: >> >> Is the RIPE NCC response to the Dutch regulator regarding the definition of an essential service operator public? > At this point, the communication with the Dutch regulator has been of an informal nature. We plan to communicate more explicitly to the community when the official decision regarding Dutch essential services is made public. However, the key points in our communication have centred around the fact that a single root server operator, due to the distributed nature of the DNS, should not be considered an Operator of Essential Services under the NIS Directive. > >> Also, you say, "Data collection restrictions that could hinder the development of AI and the IoT." I think a lot of European citizens would prefer that the development of AI and IoT not be at the expense of their personal data becoming a private economic resource. Why does the RIPE NCC believe that, "the new ePrivacy text ... takes a restrictive approach to metadata and content data processing, to the point that the current provisions would have a negative impact on the development of things like AI, IoT and big data business.? > To be clear, the RIPE NCC does not take a position on whether such regulations are good or bad - our goal is to raise awareness with our community and membership of measures that could affect their operations. We believe (based on our discussions with our contacts and consulting agency in Brussels) that the current proposals would have an impact on development in these spaces, but as you note, this may well be in line with the broader preferences of the community. The key point for us is that our community (members of which are involved in the development of IoT and big data applications) be aware of this potential impact. > > Cheers > Chris > > > ?? > Chris Buckridge > External Relations Manager > RIPE NCC > > > >> Regards, >> Mat >> >>> On 5 Nov 2018, at 22:56, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> In recent years, there?s been a trend towards increased EU regulation >>> with the potential to impact more actors across the Internet landscape. >>> Here, we give a brief overview of the most pertinent policies currently >>> being proposed, debated and implemented in the European Union: >>> >>> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/how-eu-regulation-affects-you >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Mirjam K?hne >>> RIPE NCC >>> > Mat Ford > 5 November 2018 at 16:55 > Thanks Mirjam. I posted a comment on the website, but I guess it might > make more sense to share my reaction here: > > Is the RIPE NCC response to the Dutch regulator regarding the > definition of an essential service operator public? > > Also, you say, "Data collection restrictions that could hinder the > development of AI and the IoT." I think a lot of European citizens > would prefer that the development of AI and IoT not be at the expense > of their personal data becoming a private economic resource. Why does > the RIPE NCC believe that, "the new ePrivacy text ... takes a > restrictive approach to metadata and content data processing, to the > point that the current provisions would have a negative impact on the > development of things like AI, IoT and big data business.? > > Regards, > Mat > > > > Mirjam Kuehne > 5 November 2018 at 15:56 > Dear colleagues, > > In recent years, there?s been a trend towards increased EU regulation > with the potential to impact more actors across the Internet landscape. > Here, we give a brief overview of the most pertinent policies currently > being proposed, debated and implemented in the European Union: > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/suzanne_taylor_muzzin/how-eu-regulation-affects-you > > Kind regards, > Mirjam K?hne > RIPE NCC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcoh at ripe.net Wed Nov 7 11:03:39 2018 From: marcoh at ripe.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 14:03:39 +0400 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <9448c2fa-5bcc-9b01-9af0-65c89988f670@inex.ie> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> <3722d317-233b-40f6-9e13-4a19f0144579@inex.ie> <625FC8F3-34DD-49E1-8633-D1DE20B10931@ripe.net> <9448c2fa-5bcc-9b01-9af0-65c89988f670@inex.ie> Message-ID: <96F591C1-599B-436C-B26E-8009793A9C33@ripe.net> > On 7 Nov 2018, at 02:30, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > unfortunately, "Identification criteria" is the only guideline bullet point on that web page which is missing a hyperlink, and google throws up nothing interesting on the ENISA web site. It seems that information on this is in short supply > > Nick Dear Nick, Colleagues, There is another document, CG Publication 07/2018 "Reference document on the identification of Operators of Essential Services (modalities of the consultation process in cases with cross-border impact)?. This highlights both the criteria laid out in the directive, as well as some procedures to apply when an operator provides its services in multiple member states, which would be the case for RIPE NCC. The document is available via http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=53661 Regards, Marco Hogewoning -- External Relations - RIPE NCC From gael at pch.net Wed Nov 7 12:01:27 2018 From: gael at pch.net (Gael Hernandez) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 11:01:27 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How EU Regulation Affects You In-Reply-To: <96F591C1-599B-436C-B26E-8009793A9C33@ripe.net> References: <8a03ecfe-ded6-b068-ff42-5a0902d36eb8@ripe.net> <448D886E-F9F6-4D52-977A-9E04B6D7D8A8@isoc.org> <3722d317-233b-40f6-9e13-4a19f0144579@inex.ie> <625FC8F3-34DD-49E1-8633-D1DE20B10931@ripe.net> <9448c2fa-5bcc-9b01-9af0-65c89988f670@inex.ie> <96F591C1-599B-436C-B26E-8009793A9C33@ripe.net> Message-ID: <2558EEAD-2C73-40C4-BF58-65D6ECD53EA3@pch.net> Thanks everyone for the analysis and pointers to relevant documentation. Very much appreciated. Ga?l On 7 Nov 2018, at 10:03, Marco Hogewoning wrote: >> On 7 Nov 2018, at 02:30, Nick Hilliard wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> unfortunately, "Identification criteria" is the only guideline bullet point on that web page which is missing a hyperlink, and google throws up nothing interesting on the ENISA web site. It seems that information on this is in short supply >> >> Nick > > Dear Nick, Colleagues, > > There is another document, CG Publication 07/2018 "Reference document on the identification of Operators of Essential Services (modalities of the consultation process in cases with cross-border impact)?. This highlights both the criteria laid out in the directive, as well as some procedures to apply when an operator provides its services in multiple member states, which would be the case for RIPE NCC. > > The document is available via http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=53661 > > Regards, > > Marco Hogewoning > -- > External Relations - RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 545 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chrisb at ripe.net Wed Nov 7 16:19:11 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 19:19:11 +0400 Subject: [cooperation-wg] ITU PP-18: Update at the halfway point Message-ID: Dear colleagues, The RIPE NCC is attending the ITU Plenipotentiary 2018, which is currently halfway through its three-week duration. We?ve published a brief update on developments and trends we?re seeing: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/chrisb/pp-18-an-update-at-the-halfway-point As always, we welcome any comments or questions! Cheers Chris ?? Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: From chrisb at ripe.net Tue Nov 20 16:47:30 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:47:30 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC on the ITU PP-18 Message-ID: <7B0F4EB1-B3CD-4E68-A0D4-16890D1A9ECB@ripe.net> Dear Working Group, A few of us at the RIPE NCC spent at least part of the last few weeks in Dubai for the ITU Plenipotentiary 2018. A three-week endeavour deserves more than a single blog post, so we?ve gone one better and given you two! One is more of a high-level summary of what happened - the issues discussed, the outcomes and the general tenor of the discussion: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/chrisb/itu-plenipotentiary-2018-what-just-happened The other is Marco Hogewoning?s take on some of the technical issues that came up in discussion, and what impact they might have going forward for operators, governments and the Internet generally: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco_hogewoning/itu-plenipotentiary-2018-through-the-eyes-of-a-former-network-engineer Enjoy, please feel free to comment or hit us up with any questions you might have. Best regards, Chris ?? Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: From mike.oghia at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 16:56:39 2018 From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael J. Oghia) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 16:56:39 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] E-waste on RIPE Labs Message-ID: Hi everyone, I want to draw your attention to a concise and on point article Mirjam posted a couple weeks ago to RIPE Labs about e-waste and the RIPE community. Specifically, it succinctly outlines the e-waste problem and how it connects to the RIPE community, while calling on the community to play a larger part in reducing e-waste across Eurasia (a good reminder we all have a role to play). She concludes by asking a number of questions: - What has your experience with e-waste recycling been? - Does your company have any special programmes or partner organisations it works with to deal with e-waste? - If you are a hardware manufacturer, do you have a facility for customers to return or recycle obsolete equipment? - What are the other ways you have of dealing with this issue? 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