From michele at blacknight.com Tue May 1 17:22:45 2018 From: michele at blacknight.com (Michele Neylon - Blacknight) Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 15:22:45 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] EU TLD & Brexit In-Reply-To: References: <29CCA4C1-41B2-4D7F-BDB5-6E9F60F3E8B3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <299AC34E-5849-494C-BE45-938C528D8BA5@blacknight.com> Gordon / Nick The Commission has not backtracked - the Register article is incorrect See the official sources below: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEX-18-3583_en.htm The draft Regulation is available at: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/initiatives/com-2018-231_en The new proposals are completely unrelated to Brexit and stem from an ongoing review of .eu that the Commission kicked off over a year ago. Under the new proposed regime the registration criteria would be expanded beyond residents of the EU to encompass EU citizens regardless of location. No details have been provided on how they foresee that working and based on my experience as a registrar I have serious concerns about how that will work in reality While the new policy will help EU citizens who are resident in the UK (and elsewhere) it's not going to undo the EC's bizarre approach to dealing with the 300k+ .eu registrants in the UK, which also includes Northern Ireland. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 ? From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Tue May 1 19:33:08 2018 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 19:33:08 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] EU TLD & Brexit In-Reply-To: <299AC34E-5849-494C-BE45-938C528D8BA5@blacknight.com> References: <29CCA4C1-41B2-4D7F-BDB5-6E9F60F3E8B3@gmail.com> <299AC34E-5849-494C-BE45-938C528D8BA5@blacknight.com> Message-ID: <678E6A00-A63D-4CF3-995B-E2623A3AD5E6@gmail.com> Yes, you are correct. I had meant to come back to this. I will limit myself primarily though to private individuals! The old story was that it was all about residency. So anyone of any nationality who was resident in the EU could register a domain name. The initial Brexit note then basically says that people in the UK will no longer fulfil the residency provisions and so they will lose their rights to EU domain names. This would have had a perverse and adverse affect on all the EU nationals resident in the UK who happened to have chosen an EU domain name. That includes all the Irish. However rules are rules and rules can be changed. In parallel new rules were proposed that bring citizenship into the mix. So EU citizens anywhere can now register a domain name. So the German in Australia and the Australian in Germany, the Italian in the UK and the Brit in Italy, and all the rest are all OK. Given the overall direction of the changes though the losers will be UK citizens, and of course non-EU citizens, who are resident in the UK. Except for those who realise they are also Irish? I guess a few in Northern Ireland might take that view for obvious and pragmatic reasons. However we are in negotiations and so maybe if enough informed people actually said something the rules could be changed even more. Personally I have no problems with UK citizens not being able to register EU domain names after Brexit. Brexit means Brexit? I do have a problem with UK citizens who will be resident in the UK losing their EU domain name and any associated investment they have made. I don?t know how many non-EU citizens may be involved. However I still have various questions. I am not clear how well all the 700+ registrars worldwide have been enforcing the current residency requirements after initial registration. I presume some people on this list have a feel for that. The Commission text says that EurID will be ?entitled" to revoke names. Does that mean it is up to EurID? I don?t know what the current UK-based registrant mix looks like. Proportion of organisations registered in the UK? Proportion of UK citizens? Proportion of non-EU citizens? Proportion of residual EU citizens? I am not sure if even EurID knows this. And maybe with the GDPR it may not be the time for them to ask for more personal data. And what happens to all the forfeited domain names? For some people this story is just starting. I share your concerns. But if anyone sees a bit i got wrong in the above I would be very happy to be corrected! I feel a Venn diagram might have been helpful. Gordon > On 1 May 2018, at 17:22, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote: > > Gordon / Nick > > The Commission has not backtracked - the Register article is incorrect > > See the official sources below: > > http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEX-18-3583_en.htm > > The draft Regulation is available at: > > https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/initiatives/com-2018-231_en > > The new proposals are completely unrelated to Brexit and stem from an ongoing review of .eu that the Commission kicked off over a year ago. > > Under the new proposed regime the registration criteria would be expanded beyond residents of the EU to encompass EU citizens regardless of location. No details have been provided on how they foresee that working and based on my experience as a registrar I have serious concerns about how that will work in reality > While the new policy will help EU citizens who are resident in the UK (and elsewhere) it's not going to undo the EC's bizarre approach to dealing with the 300k+ .eu registrants in the UK, which also includes Northern Ireland. > > Regards > > Michele > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > Blacknight Solutions > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > https://www.blacknight.com/ > http://blacknight.blog/ > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ > ------------------------------- > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Tue May 1 19:39:49 2018 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 19:39:49 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] EU TLD & Brexit In-Reply-To: <678E6A00-A63D-4CF3-995B-E2623A3AD5E6@gmail.com> References: <29CCA4C1-41B2-4D7F-BDB5-6E9F60F3E8B3@gmail.com> <299AC34E-5849-494C-BE45-938C528D8BA5@blacknight.com> <678E6A00-A63D-4CF3-995B-E2623A3AD5E6@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On 1 May 2018, at 19:33, Gordon Lennox wrote: > > However rules are rules and rules can be changed. The Commission would like to hear your views. Once the Commission has decided on a legislative proposal and put it forward for adoption by the EU Parliament and Council, you can respond to the proposal and accompanying impact assessment. The feedback period will close 8 weeks after the proposal is made available in all EU languages. Feedback period27 April 2018 - 26 June 2018 https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/initiatives/com-2018-231_en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From julf at julf.com Thu May 3 16:26:03 2018 From: julf at julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 16:26:03 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Co-op WG agenda for RIPE76 Message-ID: <3b0211a7-0400-1a18-fa33-6455bc23e1ee@julf.com> The current version of the Co-op WG agenda is up on https://ripe76.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/coop-wg/ Thursday, 17 May 09:00 - 10:30 1. CGN and an Analytical Approach to Policymaking - Marco Hogewoning 2. Consolidation in the Internet Ecosystem - Jari Arkko 3. Regulatory Developments in the EU - Chris Buckridge 4. EURALO and the RIPE Community - Oliver Cr?pin-Leblond 5. Protecting the Public Core of the Internet - Joanna Kulesza Julf & Achilleas From brian.nisbet at heanet.ie Thu May 10 10:02:41 2018 From: brian.nisbet at heanet.ie (Brian Nisbet) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:02:41 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] LEA participaton in RIPE meetings In-Reply-To: <2420EA6A-9779-4B26-8D07-6E28A908FA33@rfc1035.com> References: <1073915E-C4C9-4853-97DF-9E072F37A2C1@ripe.net> <954354b3-08a3-8644-de29-81c4796d52a0@time-travellers.org> <20180329094544.6l6ohwcyigunetch@schwartzvogel> <8AE9C3F6-3EDA-422A-82D6-0A1931256777@gmail.com> <2420EA6A-9779-4B26-8D07-6E28A908FA33@rfc1035.com> Message-ID: Morning, I kept meaning to follow up on this, then didn't, so just in time before 76... > -----Original Message----- > From: cooperation-wg On Behalf Of > Jim Reid > Sent: Thursday 29 March 2018 18:29 > To: Gordon Lennox > Cc: Cooperation WG RIPE > Subject: [cooperation-wg] LEA participaton in RIPE meetings > > > > > On 29 Mar 2018, at 17:06, Gordon Lennox > wrote: > > > >> Law enforcement, regulators and so on are members of the RIPE > community. > > > > So they should come to RIPE meetings? > > Of course. Assuming they see the value in that, just like anyone else who > might show up. Absolutely. > > NCC has been good in reaching out to various communities. But I would > have hoped the result would have been that these communities would have > seen the benefit in then coming to participate in RIPE meetings. > > Law enforcement and government officials have been to RIPE meetings in > the past. I even drank beer (and single malt) with some of them. And they continue to come. Europol and others have been, and continue to be, active members of the community. 2017-02 comes directly from their involvement. > Whether they see benefit from continuing participation or not depends on a > lot of unknowns: content, budget, other commitments/priorities. [You?ll > appreciate some of these issues Gordon from your time at the Commisssion > and the management hoops you had to jump through to attend a RIPE > meeting.] Or perhaps Law enforcement and government officials get enough > from these workshop type things and roundtables that a full RIPE meeting > doesn?t matter so much. We?re on the right side of this right now, but it ebbs and flows with priorities and, as you say, budgets and other issues. But part of the work of the Anti-Abuse WG has been to show the LEA community the usefulness of engaging with the rest of the RIPE community for the benefit of all. Thanks, Brian (With a little bit of his AA-WG Co-Chair hat on) Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From mir at ripe.net Mon May 14 09:46:40 2018 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 09:46:40 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: The GDPR: Amendments to the RIPE Database In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, This is our fourth in a series of RIPE Labs articles discussing the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) implementation. Here we're looking at amendments that will be needed to the RIPE Database in order to ensure GDPR compliance: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/maria_stafyla/how-were-implementing-the-gdpr-amendments-to-the-ripe-database Kind regards, Mirjam K?hne RIPE NCC From nuclearwinter42 at protonmail.com Wed May 16 13:54:39 2018 From: nuclearwinter42 at protonmail.com (flower girl) Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 13:54:39 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Massive IP blockings in Russia In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Still, even there was an official telegram block, you can still see that telegram can be reached from smartphones and with mobile data. But, you can't do it without VPN from PC thou, so you should try using zilladesigns http://zilladesigns.net Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum From ark at eltex.net Fri May 18 15:27:37 2018 From: ark at eltex.net (Alex Smirnoff) Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 16:27:37 +0300 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Fixing threat intelligence for you Message-ID: <20180518132737.bad3hw42qxrzacvz@schwartzvogel> Hi everyone, I decided to re-animate my old project: to fix threat intelligence for vulnerability management. First of all, why is it broken? (a picture attached) because today's threat intel is massively based on attack events, which means you get it too late. My idea is to create and maintain a database of available exploit capabilities, which whould help you to know (hopefully slightly in advance) what you need to urgently patch right now. https://uisgcon.org/pdf/uisgcon13-alex-smirnoff+what-is-wrong-with-information-security.pdf sildes 23-46 contain a more precise description of how would it look like. Yet I cannot do it by myself: i need either people to help me, or money to hire people, hosting resources, or probably all of the above. Anyone could suggest me a good direction to look for? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: threatintel.png Type: image/png Size: 487057 bytes Desc: not available URL: