From chrisb at ripe.net Wed Jan 24 09:34:33 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 09:34:33 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Roundtable Meeting for Governments & Regulators Held in Brussels References: <50749b38-efe6-4c4f-28c6-a5a72ee26d32@ripe.net> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Earlier this week, on 22 January 2018, we held a Roundtable Meeting for Governments and Regulators in Brussels. Around 50 representatives from governments, regulators and law enforcement agencies attended the meeting. A range of topics were covered over the course of the day, including the impact of the GDPR on the RIPE NCC, law enforcement?s recent engagement with the RIPE Policy Development Process, the use of address-sharing technologies (CGN) across Europe, and a run-down of key issues ahead of the ITU Plenipotentiary 2018 in October. The RIPE NCC has run Roundtable Meetings since 2005. They have proven to be an effective way of stimulating dialogue with and between regulators, and updating them on issues affecting the RIPE community. We also plan to hold Roundtable Meetings in the Middle East and Russian/CIS regions in 2018. You can find more information, including presentation slides, on our website (click on the agenda items): https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/roundtable/january-2018 Best regards, Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Fri Jan 26 14:16:21 2018 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:16:21 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Why Russia is Building Its Own Internet Message-ID: << Last November, news emerged that Russian president Vladimir Putin had approved a plan to create an independent Internet by 1 August 2018, first reported by the Russian news agency, RT. The alternate Internet would be used by BRICS nations?Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa?and shield them from ?possible external influence,? the Kremlin?s press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, told RT. ?We all know who the chief administrator of the global Internet is,? Peskov said. ?And due to its volatility, we have to think about how to ensure our national security.? Putting aside for the moment Peskov?s insinuation that the chief administrator of the Internet, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), which abides by California?s state laws, would mess around with Russia?s access to the network, the question remains: Could Russia create its own alternate Internet? ?The answer to your question is yes,? says David Conrad, chief technology officer for ICANN. The Internet?s protocols are openly available and, because it?s a network of interconnected networks, it?s entirely possible to recreate a different network of interconnected networks, he says. . . . >> https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/internet/could-russia-really-build-its-own-alternate-internet From andrei.robachevsky at gmail.com Fri Jan 26 15:17:04 2018 From: andrei.robachevsky at gmail.com (Andrei Robachevsky) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:17:04 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Why Russia is Building Its Own Internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gordon Lennox wrote on 26/01/2018 14:16: > ?The answer to your question is yes,? says David Conrad, chief technology officer for ICANN. The Internet?s protocols are openly available and, because it?s a network of interconnected networks, it?s entirely possible to recreate a different network of interconnected networks, he says. I think "entirely" is a bit strong. It is technically possible. Like it is technically possible to have fully IPv6-based Internet, secure DNS and routing. The challenge goes beyond technical possibility. Unless one creates an "enterprise" network in a country. But that brings other challenges. Andrei -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 230 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ocl at gih.com Fri Jan 26 18:51:52 2018 From: ocl at gih.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Olivier_MJ_Cr=c3=a9pin-Leblond?=) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:51:52 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Why Russia is Building Its Own Internet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1de71daa-aea1-2021-bb91-fe8965c6a24a@gih.com> On 26/01/2018 14:17, Andrei Robachevsky wrote: > Gordon Lennox wrote on 26/01/2018 14:16: >> ?The answer to your question is yes,? says David Conrad, chief technology officer for ICANN. The Internet?s protocols are openly available and, because it?s a network of interconnected networks, it?s entirely possible to recreate a different network of interconnected networks, he says. > I think "entirely" is a bit strong. It is technically possible. Like it > is technically possible to have fully IPv6-based Internet, secure DNS > and routing. The challenge goes beyond technical possibility. Unless one > creates an "enterprise" network in a country. But that brings other > challenges. With enough funding, building it is no problem. It's getting end users and content providers to use it that's the problem because it's a chicken and egg scenario. The network of networks called the Internet has successfully passed that stage because there were already enough users by the time the content providers arrived. Let's also remember that networks joined the Internet out of their own free will. If they are not happy, nobody is blocking them from doing their own thing. Good luck to them. 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