From mir at ripe.net Thu Feb 1 16:12:24 2018 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 16:12:24 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: How We're Implementing the GDPR - the RIPE Database Message-ID: Dear colleagues, This is our second in a series of articles discussing the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) implementation. Here we are looking at the purpose for which personal data is collected and publicly accessed through the RIPE Database, as well as other aspects of the data protection legislation, such as the legal basis for this processing, data removal procedures, and so on: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/Athina/how-we-re-implementing-the-gdpr-the-ripe-database Kind regards, Mirjam K?hne RIPE NCC From chrisb at ripe.net Mon Feb 5 11:03:36 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 11:03:36 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Hosts Workshop for Russian LEAs References: <6e8eec07-ff31-54be-0735-0dfc1dac7d3e@ripe.net> Message-ID: <3F501495-918D-45C5-9F7F-E98864C29D7F@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, Last week, on 31 January 2018, we held a one-day workshop for Russian Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs) in Moscow. The workshop was attended by 19 participants. The event followed the format of similar LEA capacity-building efforts in other parts of our service region. LEAs learned about the RIR system and the respective roles of RIPE and the RIPE NCC, and there were discussions on the RIPE Database and the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP). The concerns of LEAs were primarily around issues of attribution (knowing who is using an IP address at a given point in time). IPv6 deployment and the Internet of Things (IoT) were also topics of interest. We went over the current policy proposals in the PDP, including the proposal initiated by the LEA community, 2017-02, "Regular abuse-c Validation" and encouraged LEAs to participate. Last year, the RIPE NCC signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation, an agreement which helped to make this initiative possible. We will be hosting similar capacity-building events with LEAs in Armenia and the UAE later this week. You can find the agenda and presentations from the workshop here: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/lea-meetings/ripe-ncc-lea-meeting-31-january-2018 Kind regards Chris Buckridge External Relations Manager RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From isavnin at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 20:55:06 2018 From: isavnin at gmail.com (Alexander Isavnin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:55:06 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Hosts Workshop for Russian LEAs In-Reply-To: <3F501495-918D-45C5-9F7F-E98864C29D7F@ripe.net> Message-ID: Dear Chris! Could we ask for participants list from Russian LEAs? We have right to know, who will never ask about owner of "192.168.0.1" address since this meeting in Russia. :) Due to Russian police regulations, police officers (or any other equvalent investigating LEA officer) could not stay anonymous, so don't shy to reveal their names. Kind regards, Alexander Isavnin Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum From isavnin at gmail.com Fri Feb 16 21:00:35 2018 From: isavnin at gmail.com (Alexander Isavnin) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:00:35 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Why Russia is Building Its Own Internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Gordon, Andrei, Olivier! Thank you, honest Western Europe citizens, for caring about Russian Internet! Let me reveal main message of all this news and official's statements. It's all about rationalizing building if not Greate Chineese Firewall, but Digital Iron Curtain to hide you (and your values) from Russian citizens. So don't worry. Kind regards, Alexander Isavnin P.S. Ask me, if you want to know full picture of current Russian Internet regulations. Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum From chrisb at ripe.net Mon Feb 19 12:21:36 2018 From: chrisb at ripe.net (Chris Buckridge) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:21:36 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Hosts Workshop for Russian LEAs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1073915E-C4C9-4853-97DF-9E072F37A2C1@ripe.net> Hi Alexander, This was a closed meeting for law enforcement officials, arranged through the Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications of the Russian Federation, who made the outreach to appropriate agencies. The participants were not required to share their name or affiliation in a way that would be publicly available, and the RIPE NCC could not be publish that information without those participants? prior permission. As I noted in the earlier email, we are happy to share the agenda and all presentations delivered by the RIPE NCC at this event. This comprehensively covers the content and message delivered by the RIPE NCC staff during the discussion. I?d also direct anyone with an interest in this engagement to an article that we published on RIPE Labs last August that went more deeply into the reasons and strategy behind the RIPE NCC?s LEA engagement: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/richard_leaning/bringing-law-enforcement-into-the-ripe-community Best regards, Chris > On 16 Feb 2018, at 20:55, Alexander Isavnin wrote: > > Dear Chris! > > Could we ask for participants list from Russian LEAs? > > We have right to know, who will never ask about owner of "192.168.0.1" address since this meeting in Russia. :) > > Due to Russian police regulations, police officers (or any other equvalent investigating LEA officer) could not stay anonymous, so don't shy to reveal their names. > > Kind regards, > Alexander Isavnin > > Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum > From isavnin at gmail.com Mon Feb 19 16:07:26 2018 From: isavnin at gmail.com (Alexander Isavnin) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:07:26 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Hosts Workshop for Russian LEAs In-Reply-To: <1073915E-C4C9-4853-97DF-9E072F37A2C1@ripe.net> Message-ID: Chris! Seems i'v mistaken, and Openness and Transparency are no longer essencial values for RIPE NCC. No gap could be briged if LEAs stays anonymous. Breaking openness and transparency for comfort of some doubtful officers - is really bad idea. Why i ask for LEA deanonymisation? Read ECHR cases against Russia on tortures (and other abuses) by all kind of LEAs. It would be really pity, if later appears, that RIPE NCC have met some of such abusers. Regards, Alexander P.S. As we say in Internet: "pics, or never happened" P.P.S. Also, "Once cop always cop", even if it tries to infiltrate into engeneering world. As we seen, successfully protecting interests of cops, rather than interests of Community. Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum From michele at blacknight.com Mon Feb 19 17:56:07 2018 From: michele at blacknight.com (Michele Neylon - Blacknight) Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:56:07 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC Hosts Workshop for Russian LEAs In-Reply-To: References: <1073915E-C4C9-4853-97DF-9E072F37A2C1@ripe.net> Message-ID: Alexander Holding meetings with LEA is a good idea in order to help them understand what we all do as well as to understand their concerns. Demanding that they register etc., would make such meetings problematic. So I disagree with you fundamentally. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 ?On 19/02/2018, 15:08, "cooperation-wg on behalf of Alexander Isavnin" wrote: Chris! Seems i'v mistaken, and Openness and Transparency are no longer essencial values for RIPE NCC. No gap could be briged if LEAs stays anonymous. Breaking openness and transparency for comfort of some doubtful officers - is really bad idea. Why i ask for LEA deanonymisation? Read ECHR cases against Russia on tortures (and other abuses) by all kind of LEAs. It would be really pity, if later appears, that RIPE NCC have met some of such abusers. Regards, Alexander P.S. As we say in Internet: "pics, or never happened" P.P.S. Also, "Once cop always cop", even if it tries to infiltrate into engeneering world. As we seen, successfully protecting interests of cops, rather than interests of Community. Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum