From marcoh at ripe.net Wed Jul 5 08:38:28 2017 From: marcoh at ripe.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 09:38:28 +0300 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to BEREC consultation on the Draft Net-Neutrality Regulatory Assessment Methodology Message-ID: <1A096F2A-2155-4A7C-8A20-F8A28E890E8C@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, BEREC, the European body of regulators have a number of public consultations open until today. Attached is the contribution by the RIPE NCC on one of these consultations, which sets out a draft assessment methodology for net-neutrality regulation. Our main focus is on IPv6 and especially situations in the transitioning phase where a client may have to use some IPv6 to IPv4 translation service. More information on the consultations and the draft text is available from the BEREC website at http://berec.europa.eu/eng/news_consultations/ongoing_public_consultations/4379-on-draft-berec-strategy-2018-2020-draft-net-neutrality-regulatory-assessment-methodology-draft-report-on-ip-interconnection-practices-in-the-context-of-net-neutrality Regards, Marco Hogewoning RIPE NCC External Relations -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attachment 1.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 24659 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mir at ripe.net Wed Jul 5 10:53:53 2017 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 10:53:53 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: The Internet was Built on Trust - but what does it run on? Message-ID: Dear colleagues, One of the most noble narratives about the Internet is that it is built on trust. This new RIPE Labs article by Uta Meier-Hahn sets out to check if that saying still holds true: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/uta_meier_hahn/the-internet-was-built-on-trust-but-what-does-it-run-on Kind regards, Mirjam K?hne RIPE NCC From ripencc-management at ripe.net Mon Jul 10 12:29:58 2017 From: ripencc-management at ripe.net (Paul Rendek) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:29:58 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Invitation to RIPE IoT Roundtable Meeting, 21 September 2017, Leeds (UK) Message-ID: <0176C427-D64F-4995-9132-CA2A606B254E@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, Following the successful BoF sessions that took place at the last two RIPE Meetings, we would like to invite you to a one day meeting dedicated to the Internet of Things (IoT) and its consequences for the RIPE community and our business. This will be a one-day meeting, taking place in Leeds, UK, on 21 September 2017. We will start at around 10:30 local time and end the day at around 17:30 with a small reception. Our aim at this meeting will be to discuss what impact the IoT might have on areas of interest to the RIPE community and RIPE NCC services, and how we together can contribute to this emerging industry in a positive manner. This meeting is open to all interested parties. Registration for the event is now open: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/roundtable/september-2017/register More information and a preliminary agenda of this meeting is available on our website via the following link: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/roundtable/september-2017/ripe-iot-roundtable-meeting-21-september-2017/ While are still busy developing the agenda for this meeting, we would like to invite participants to suggest contributions or short talks on this topic. Hope to see you all in Leeds, Paul Rendek, Director of External Relations RIPE NCC From Achilleas.KEMOS at ec.europa.eu Mon Jul 10 17:06:14 2017 From: Achilleas.KEMOS at ec.europa.eu (Achilleas.KEMOS at ec.europa.eu) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 15:06:14 +0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Fwd: (CGN) European Commission PQ response In-Reply-To: <4e3b44d4-a3b4-300b-aa93-61b3c1a6e227@linx.net> References: <4e3b44d4-a3b4-300b-aa93-61b3c1a6e227@linx.net> Message-ID: <5213F3B60B84F74AA0C30985B5E546565CDCEAA4@S-DC-ESTG02-J.net1.cec.eu.int> Many thanks for signalling to the Group the answer to the PQ mentioned during the Budapest meeting. Group members might be interested to know there is also a second PQ on CGN for written answer, E-002829-17: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fTEXT%2bWQ%2bE-2017-002829%2b0%2bDOC%2bXML%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN Achilleas -----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Malcolm Hutty Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:04 PM To: cooperation-wg at ripe.net Subject: [cooperation-wg] Fwd: (CGN) European Commission PQ response The Co-operation WG may be interested in the following report of a reply by a European Commissioner to a European Parliamentary question about Carrier Grade NAT - not least because the reply refers to this WG by name. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: (CGN) European Commission PQ response Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 08:37:47 +0000 From: Owen Bennett To: DG-Euroispa cybersecurity Dear EuroISPA Cybersecurity committee, The European Commission has published its answer to a recent European Parliament parliamentary question*concerning ISPs? deployment of CGN (carrier-grade network access translation) and the so-called ?going-dark? problem.* To remind, ISPs are under increasing pressure from law enforcement with regard to their use of CGN technology ? the fact of putting multiple users behind individual IP addresses is said to stifle law enforcement investigations of crimes with an online component. The Commission?s response to the parliamentary question is pertinent for EuroISPA in that it is one of the first times where the Institution has addressed the CGN matter in an official /on the record /capacity. As you will see, the Commission?s response falls short of calling for regulatory intervention to limit CGN deployment, and even goes as far as to label CGN deployment ?unavoidable?. We will continue to monitor this matter at EU-level and keep members updated. Kind regards, Owen *** *Question of MEP Agnew (EFDD, UK), Carrier Grade Network Access Translation , 17 February 2017* /[Europol recently held a meeting to discuss CGN technologies that have long been used by ISPs to delay the capex required to extend the current pool of IP addresses (CGN technologies are used by ISPs to share one single IP address among multiple subscribers at the same time)./ /Does the Commission agree that restricting the continued use of CGN, simply on the grounds that Europol finds it inconvenient to monitor, is a retrograde step and an unacceptable interference with current commercial practice and freedom of technological choice?]/ *Answer given by Commissioner Avramopoulos on behalf of the European Commission, 26 June 2017 * /[The Commission is aware that law enforcement authorities have raised certain concerns regarding the increasing use of Carrier-Grade Network Address Translation (CGN) technology. CGN enables a single Internet Protocol (IP) address to be shared by potentially thousands or hundreds of thousands of subscribers at the same time since there is not enough capacity under the current IP version 4 (IPv) to meet demand. This makes it technically very difficult for an internet service provider to identify an individual subscriber in response to legitimate requests from law enforcement authorities. Consequently, it is difficult to attribute crime and identify criminals using that particular IP address. Europol thus has legitimate concerns regarding CGN or other forms of address sharing, which may also have a negative impact on fraud detection or intrusion detection systems. They may also have other negative consequences, such as overall performance degradation of connections or even, in some cases, certain applications not working at all. / / / /The expedited deployment of IP version 6 (IPv6)//on a global scale and by all stakeholders would mitigate the problems and also offer new opportunities to service providers. In the short term, however, the use of IPv4 address-sharing is unavoidable, as there are still a significant number of users, services and applications that function only with IPv4. At the same time, the Commission is not aware of any proposals to restrict the continued use of CGN, but rather of efforts being made to raise awareness about the issue, share best practices and find ways to facilitate the attribution of crime. It intends to raise the issue to RIPE (R?seaux IP Europ?ens) via its representative who is chairing RIPE's Cooperation Working Group.]/ *** *Owen Bennett* Policy Executive *EuroISPA - European Internet Services Providers Association * Rue du Commerce 124/5 - 1000 Brussels T: +32 (0)2 550 41 22 www.euroispa.org Follow us on Twitter *@euroispa * *EuroISPA is the world's largest association of Internet Services Providers, representing over 2500 ISPs across Europe.* EU Transparency Register ID Number: 54437813115-56 From mir at ripe.net Fri Jul 21 13:31:19 2017 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:31:19 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Public Policy Demands Better Statistics In-Reply-To: <8b4bfd30-da6d-2cec-adb3-e0bb81b9d239@ripe.net> References: <8b4bfd30-da6d-2cec-adb3-e0bb81b9d239@ripe.net> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, Please read this interesting article by George Michaelson on RIPE Labs: Public Policy Demands Better Statistics It's a story about science and data and how we need to apply rigour if we want to use data to inform and influence policy decisions. It is also a story about HTTPS. https://labs.ripe.net/Members/ggm/public-policy-demands-better-statistics Kind regards, Mirjam K?hne RIPE NCC