From jim at rfc1035.com Sat Oct 1 00:33:27 2016 From: jim at rfc1035.com (Jim Reid) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 23:33:27 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] the IANA transition has happened! Message-ID: <11CD59D1-9140-4A06-92E2-F8136BA7498A@rfc1035.com> The last minute attempt to get an injunction to stop the NTIA contract from ending has been rejected. Rejoice! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The number community?s fundamental principles of openness, transparency, inclusiveness and bottom-up decision making, have been a leading example throughout this work. We are immensely proud of the work carried out by our community and we feel privileged to have been part of this process. > > The successful completion of the IANA stewardship transition, involving many different stakeholders across the globe, is a true testament to the multistakeholder model. > > The IANA function now in the hands of the global Internet community, which will ensure the continued stability and openness of those fundamental functions. > > We now have a stewardship mechanism which the Numbers Community, with expertise on the global number resources, has the stewardship of the IANA Numbering Services. This mechanism reflects the three Operational Communities, who have been responsible for the resources managed by the IANA, to have stewardship for these functions. > > We would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this successful transition. > Kind regards, > > Izumi Okutani, chair of the CRISP team > Nurani Nimpuno, vice chair of the CRISP team > > _______________________________________________ > ianaxfer mailing list > ianaxfer at nro.net > https://www.nro.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paf at frobbit.se Sat Oct 1 08:27:18 2016 From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 08:27:18 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] the IANA transition has happened! In-Reply-To: <11CD59D1-9140-4A06-92E2-F8136BA7498A@rfc1035.com> References: <11CD59D1-9140-4A06-92E2-F8136BA7498A@rfc1035.com> Message-ID: <93465FCB-64E1-484E-AC24-DB95A66BA77D@frobbit.se> The IANA contract has expired: Patrik -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 203 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From marcoh at ripe.net Tue Oct 11 09:48:10 2016 From: marcoh at ripe.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:48:10 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] European Commission tender: study to support the definition phase of the Next Generation Internet initiative Message-ID: <36790881-4E0D-44EE-AB9A-4F284E87D739@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, We recently have been notified about the following, which we think this may be an area that RIPE community members have an interest in commenting on. At this stage we do not have more information than what is posted on the webpages mentioned below. "The European Commission has launched a call for tenders for a service contract to conduct a study to support the definition phase of the Next Generation Internet initiative. In their offer, the tenderer should demonstrate a deep knowledge of the Future Internet area and key applications, from a technical perspective, notably through relevant previous work of similar nature (SMART 2016/0033 The overall objective of the study is to support the definition phase of the Next Generation Internet initiative. This includes developing a concept for a new research and innovation initiative on next generation Internet and engaging with a broader community of stakeholders.? More information about this tender and the Next Generation Internet Initiative can be found on the Commission?s website: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/next-generation-internet-2025 Regards, Marco Hogewoning -- External Relations - RIPE NCC From julf at julf.com Tue Oct 18 08:49:45 2016 From: julf at julf.com (Johan Helsingius) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 08:49:45 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] Suggested agenda for RIPE73 Cooperation WG session In-Reply-To: <5213F3B60B84F74AA0C30985B5E546564B23249F@S-DC-ESTG02-J.net1.cec.eu.int> References: <5213F3B60B84F74AA0C30985B5E546564B1F7088@S-DC-ESTG02-J.net1.cec.eu.int> <92ba0428-2bd0-f855-4113-719a9c783cda@ripe.net> <13abcdb3-089a-5830-fce4-8e695864e40c@julf.com> <0ccda4ea-c7e7-f9b4-cd73-104e663ab1bf@ripe.net> <3DC161D4-4ED9-489D-B44D-FBE2B41DA727@ripe.net> <5213F3B60B84F74AA0C30985B5E546564B23249F@S-DC-ESTG02-J.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: <5fae029a-73ea-2909-656e-dedb1518c075@julf.com> Here is the current suggested agenda for the cooperation WG session in Madrid. Julf & Achilleas - - - - - RIPE73 Cooperation WG session Thursday, 27 October, 10:00-11:30 Co-chairs: Achilleas Kemos, Julf Helsingius 1. Administrative Matters (5 minutes) - Welcome - Selecting a scribe - Approve agenda - Approve minutes from RIPE 72 https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/coop/minutes/ripe-72 2. Cybersecurity Due Diligence - and ISP Perspective (20 minutes) Joanna Kuleza, University of Lodz, PL 3. EU 5G Action Plan (20 minutes) Achilleas Kemos 4. IPv6 and Government Update (20 minutes) Chris Buckridge and Marco Hogewoning, RIPE NCC, Constanze B?rger, BMI, DE 5. RIPE NCC Update (20 minutes) Chris Buckridge and Marco Hogewoning, RIPE NCC, Julf Helsingius - IANA transition - IoT issues - ITU activities 6. Open Microphone Session (5 minutes) 7. Any other business From marcoh at ripe.net Thu Oct 20 11:01:35 2016 From: marcoh at ripe.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:01:35 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to ITU SG20 Liaison Statement Message-ID: Dear colleagues, We would like to inform you that we have published our response to a Liaison Statement that we recently received on behalf of ITU Study Group 20, which is working on the Internet of Things (IoT) and its applications, including smart cities and communities. The incoming Liaison Statement as well as our response can be found on the RIPE NCC?s website: https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/industry-developments/ripe-ncc-supplies-feedback-to-itu-study-group-on-internet-of-things In case you have any questions regarding this topic, feel free to contact us via email, this mailing list or you can contact me or one of my colleagues during next week?s RIPE meeting, taking place in Madrid, Spain. Regards, Marco Hogewoning -- External Relations - RIPE NCC From paf at frobbit.se Thu Oct 20 14:14:25 2016 From: paf at frobbit.se (Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:14:25 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to ITU SG20 Liaison Statement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A good response, thanks! Specifically: > While the liaison statement notes the Study Group's intention to cooperate closely with > "the IETF, the IPv6 Forum, ISOC, ETSI and other relevant stakeholders and academic > partners", we would suggest that such cooperation (in the context of IPv6 addressing) > should be characterised by the Study Group's incorporation of policies or best practices > developed in these other communities. 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Cheers, -- Shane At 2016-10-20 14:14:25 +0200 "Patrik F?ltstr?m" wrote: > A good response, thanks! > > Specifically: > > > While the liaison statement notes the Study Group's intention to cooperate closely with > > "the IETF, the IPv6 Forum, ISOC, ETSI and other relevant stakeholders and academic > > partners", we would suggest that such cooperation (in the context of IPv6 addressing) > > should be characterised by the Study Group's incorporation of policies or best practices > > developed in these other communities. > > Patrik > > On 20 Oct 2016, at 11:01, Marco Hogewoning wrote: > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > We would like to inform you that we have published our response to a Liaison Statement that we recently received on behalf of ITU Study Group 20, which is working on the Internet of Things (IoT) and its applications, including smart cities and communities. > > > > The incoming Liaison Statement as well as our response can be found on the RIPE NCC?s website: > > > > https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/industry-developments/ripe-ncc-supplies-feedback-to-itu-study-group-on-internet-of-things > > > > In case you have any questions regarding this topic, feel free to contact us via email, this mailing list or you can contact me or one of my colleagues during next week?s RIPE meeting, taking place in Madrid, Spain. > > > > Regards, > > > > Marco Hogewoning > > -- > > External Relations - RIPE NCC > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is a pity that these issues apparently need > to be re-visited constantly, but I appreciate that the RIPE NCC is > willing to fight the same battles! > > Cheers, > > -- > Shane > > At 2016-10-20 14:14:25 +0200 > "Patrik F?ltstr?m" wrote: > > > A good response, thanks! > > > > Specifically: > > > > > While the liaison statement notes the Study Group's intention to > cooperate closely with > > > "the IETF, the IPv6 Forum, ISOC, ETSI and other relevant stakeholders > and academic > > > partners", we would suggest that such cooperation (in the context of > IPv6 addressing) > > > should be characterised by the Study Group's incorporation of policies > or best practices > > > developed in these other communities. > > > > Patrik > > > > On 20 Oct 2016, at 11:01, Marco Hogewoning wrote: > > > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > > > We would like to inform you that we have published our response to a > Liaison Statement that we recently received on behalf of ITU Study Group > 20, which is working on the Internet of Things (IoT) and its applications, > including smart cities and communities. > > > > > > The incoming Liaison Statement as well as our response can be found on > the RIPE NCC?s website: > > > > > > https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/industry-developments/ripe-ncc- > supplies-feedback-to-itu-study-group-on-internet-of-things > > > > > > In case you have any questions regarding this topic, feel free to > contact us via email, this mailing list or you can contact me or one of my > colleagues during next week?s RIPE meeting, taking place in Madrid, Spain. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Marco Hogewoning > > > -- > > > External Relations - RIPE NCC > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Furthermore, I'd like to know if that Liaison Statement came to the NCC out of the blue, or if rather there had been some informal exchange with SG20 members and/or the chairs prior to the Statement. Thanks & best, -C. From seun.ojedeji at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 19:11:59 2016 From: seun.ojedeji at gmail.com (Seun Ojedeji) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 18:11:59 +0100 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to ITU SG20 Liaison Statement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 the following section was pleasing to read: "However, the proposed Recommendations refer to specific operational matters, and we do not believe that in this instance an ITU Study Group is the appropriate venue for development and adoption of such standards. With particular reference to the proposed Recommendation on IPv6 subnet addressing, we note that an IPv6 address plan must adhere to the policies set by the respective RIR communities, meaning that any normative specifications on IPv6 addressing should be developed through the open RIR community forums." Thanks for sending this in and depending on the importance attached to the work of that group, it may be good to put in a statement at the NRO-EC level Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On 20 Oct 2016 13:14, "Patrik F?ltstr?m" wrote: > A good response, thanks! > > Specifically: > > > While the liaison statement notes the Study Group's intention to > cooperate closely with > > "the IETF, the IPv6 Forum, ISOC, ETSI and other relevant stakeholders > and academic > > partners", we would suggest that such cooperation (in the context of > IPv6 addressing) > > should be characterised by the Study Group's incorporation of policies > or best practices > > developed in these other communities. > > Patrik > > On 20 Oct 2016, at 11:01, Marco Hogewoning wrote: > > > Dear colleagues, > > > > We would like to inform you that we have published our response to a > Liaison Statement that we recently received on behalf of ITU Study Group > 20, which is working on the Internet of Things (IoT) and its applications, > including smart cities and communities. > > > > The incoming Liaison Statement as well as our response can be found on > the RIPE NCC?s website: > > > > https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/industry-developments/ripe-ncc- > supplies-feedback-to-itu-study-group-on-internet-of-things > > > > In case you have any questions regarding this topic, feel free to > contact us via email, this mailing list or you can contact me or one of my > colleagues during next week?s RIPE meeting, taking place in Madrid, Spain. > > > > Regards, > > > > Marco Hogewoning > > -- > > External Relations - RIPE NCC > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike.oghia at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 23:53:43 2016 From: mike.oghia at gmail.com (Michael Oghia) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 23:53:43 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to ITU SG20 Liaison Statement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for highlighting that section Seun, it was one of the strongest in my view. Again, it's good to see this kind of statement from RIPE NCC. It feels great to have that kind of institutional support as well. -Michael On Oct 20, 2016 7:12 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" wrote: > +1 the following section was pleasing to read: > > "However, the proposed Recommendations refer to specific operational > matters, and we do not believe that in this instance an ITU Study Group is > the appropriate venue for development and adoption of such standards. With > particular reference to the proposed Recommendation on IPv6 subnet > addressing, we note that an IPv6 address plan must adhere to the policies > set by the respective RIR communities, meaning that any normative > specifications on IPv6 addressing should be developed through the open RIR > community forums." > > Thanks for sending this in and depending on the importance attached to the > work of that group, it may be good to put in a statement at the NRO-EC level > > Regards > Sent from my LG G4 > Kindly excuse brevity and typos > > On 20 Oct 2016 13:14, "Patrik F?ltstr?m" wrote: > >> A good response, thanks! >> >> Specifically: >> >> > While the liaison statement notes the Study Group's intention to >> cooperate closely with >> > "the IETF, the IPv6 Forum, ISOC, ETSI and other relevant stakeholders >> and academic >> > partners", we would suggest that such cooperation (in the context of >> IPv6 addressing) >> > should be characterised by the Study Group's incorporation of policies >> or best practices >> > developed in these other communities. >> >> Patrik >> >> On 20 Oct 2016, at 11:01, Marco Hogewoning wrote: >> >> > Dear colleagues, >> > >> > We would like to inform you that we have published our response to a >> Liaison Statement that we recently received on behalf of ITU Study Group >> 20, which is working on the Internet of Things (IoT) and its applications, >> including smart cities and communities. >> > >> > The incoming Liaison Statement as well as our response can be found on >> the RIPE NCC?s website: >> > >> > https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/industry-developments >> /ripe-ncc-supplies-feedback-to-itu-study-group-on-internet-of-things >> > >> > In case you have any questions regarding this topic, feel free to >> contact us via email, this mailing list or you can contact me or one of my >> colleagues during next week?s RIPE meeting, taking place in Madrid, Spain. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Marco Hogewoning >> > -- >> > External Relations - RIPE NCC >> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcoh at ripe.net Fri Oct 21 10:55:39 2016 From: marcoh at ripe.net (Marco Hogewoning) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 10:55:39 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to ITU SG20 Liaison Statement In-Reply-To: <0e395bdc-cd5c-b477-c882-0057b98c3280@schiefner.de> References: <0e395bdc-cd5c-b477-c882-0057b98c3280@schiefner.de> Message-ID: <50AD476C-6481-476F-A7A2-D07274B9F4BD@ripe.net> > On 20 Oct 2016, at 18:47, Carsten Schiefner wrote: > > Hi Marco, > > On 20.10.2016 11:01, Marco Hogewoning wrote: >> We would like to inform you that we have published our response to a >> Liaison Statement that we recently received on behalf of ITU Study >> Group 20, which is working on the Internet of Things (IoT) and its >> applications, including smart cities and communities. >> >> The incoming Liaison Statement as well as our response can be found >> on the RIPE NCC?s website: >> >> https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/industry-developments/ripe-ncc-supplies-feedback-to-itu-study-group-on-internet-of-things >> >> In case you have any questions regarding this topic, feel free to >> contact us via email, this mailing list or you can contact me or one >> of my colleagues during next week?s RIPE meeting, taking place in >> Madrid, Spain. > > first of all, I wholeheartedly agree with what's being said here by paf, > Shane and Michael: thanks for be on it. > > Furthermore, I'd like to know if that Liaison Statement came to the NCC > out of the blue, or if rather there had been some informal exchange with > SG20 members and/or the chairs prior to the Statement. Hey Carsten, Thank you for your continued support. As the response mentioned, we have attended the previous Study Group meetings and of course during those we also had informal exchanges with the rapporteurs, chairman and vice chairs of the group. The Liaison Statement did not come as a surprise as those were discussed at the last SG20 meeting. In that sense, the formal exchange of a Liaison Statement is a matter of ITU procedures, which they have to follow. As all RIRs received similar Liaisons, some coordination took place amongst the RIR staff and LACNIC and APNIC have also shared their responses with us. Of course as a member participating in the Study Group, we can also contribute directly and make interventions during the meetings, should we feel that is necessary. Regards, Marco From ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de Sun Oct 23 14:15:47 2016 From: ripe-wgs.cs at schiefner.de (Carsten Schiefner) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 14:15:47 +0200 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RIPE NCC's response to ITU SG20 Liaison Statement In-Reply-To: <50AD476C-6481-476F-A7A2-D07274B9F4BD@ripe.net> References: <0e395bdc-cd5c-b477-c882-0057b98c3280@schiefner.de> <50AD476C-6481-476F-A7A2-D07274B9F4BD@ripe.net> Message-ID: <8377125e-a866-be99-325e-302450b91ed8@schiefner.de> Hi Marco - On 21.10.2016 10:55, Marco Hogewoning wrote: > As the response mentioned, we have attended the previous Study Group > meetings and of course during those we also had informal exchanges > with the rapporteurs, chairman and vice chairs of the group. that appears to have slipped through unread for some reason. My apologies. > The Liaison Statement did not come as a surprise as those were > discussed at the last SG20 meeting. In that sense, the formal > exchange of a Liaison Statement is a matter of ITU procedures, which > they have to follow. > > As all RIRs received similar Liaisons, some coordination took place > amongst the RIR staff and LACNIC and APNIC have also shared their > responses with us. > > Of course as a member participating in the Study Group, we can also > contribute directly and make interventions during the meetings, > should we feel that is necessary. Thanks for the clarification and the detailing. Have a good RIPE 73 week, all - best, -C.