[cooperation-wg] [BMI-SPAM-Verdacht] Re: cooperation-wg Digest, Vol 53, Issue 16

Thank you for sharing this Constanze!

Indeed, the more we work together, the more we will accomplish things. I am
sure of that. Collaboration is how we built the Internet, and and I firmly
believe collaboration and openness is how we will continue to ensure it
evolves in a way that is advantageous and beneficial to humanity.

-Michael

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:39 PM, <Constanze.Buerger at bmi.bund.de> wrote:

> We should go on and make them aware from what we learned:
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> For all politicians there is the aim to bring in content – we have the
> process. J
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> For you interest our bp from the last 6 months:
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> New  role of public administration and governments
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> The world of Internet is growing. In this global Internet world  not only
> ISPs are the legitimate users and stakeholders but also citizens at home
> with upcoming smart home solutions, companies with industry 4.0 solutions,
> worldwide located enterprises or governments and public administrations.
> The deployment of IPv6 is the  main issue to keep the internet running and
> we have to ensure requirements of all new stakeholders into account. About
> this communication way and the role of public administration in the
> community I told you last year.
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> But now we furthermore see a change in hierarchic organizations as well.
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> The work of multistakeholder groups is  based on maillinglists. These are
> driven by events , have topics for specialists and need fast decisions. In
> hierarchical organizations we can join these lists on working level, but we
> have to use the decissionmaking process to continue. And this is a problem
> because this structure is to slow to  work with multistakeholder groups.
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> So we need more longterm strategies on high levels and concrete concepts
> and the mandate to bring in decissions on working levels .
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> . To reflect more security, technical, organizational, economic, social
> and political constraints and to ensure the internet rules, we have to
> figure out a new “Thinking” and new “Cooperation Forms”.
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> Regards
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> *Von:* cooperation-wg [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces at ripe.net] *Im
> Auftrag von *Michael Oghia
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2016 16:12
> *An:* Gordon Lennox
> *Cc:* Cooperation WG
> *Betreff:* [BMI-SPAM-Verdacht] Re: [cooperation-wg] cooperation-wg
> Digest, Vol 53, Issue 16
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> I completely agree with you Gordon, good points.
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> My strategy that I've really learned from others is to positively impact
> decisions through relationship building. I find it an effective one, and
> once a decision maker understands that the community's intentions are
> positive (or at least non-threatening), then perhaps they are more keen to
> listen. With that said, DiploFoundation, for instance, does a lot of work
> with diplomats and a lot of training with government.
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> In the end I think it's important to remember that, regardless of politics
> and power, the people making decisions -- the politicians, bureaucrats,
> etc. -- are still people. Just people.
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> -Michael
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> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com>
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> I agree.
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> One of the nice things about this community is that you ask a question and
> you get a response.
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> But when it comes to governments, both politicians and officials, it is
> not always about a lack of understanding. It can be about a very strong
> disagreement about values.
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> I would add though that often it is not even just about “governments”.
> Even in a government from a particular culture and of a certain flavour
> there can be very strong internal / inter-departmental disagreements. And
> it is not always the “good guys” who have clue.
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> Gordon
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> > On 23 Jun 2016, at 15:37, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
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> > The tricky ones are the ones where the views of the community
> > and the views of (some) governments are in conflict, and
> > activism, rather than education, is what is needed. In that
> > case we need to be very clear about who represents whom.
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