From steve.nash at theiet.org Wed Feb 23 13:51:58 2011 From: steve.nash at theiet.org (Steve Nash) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:51:58 -0000 Subject: [cooperation-wg] RE: EU Directives on Data Retention etc In-Reply-To: <9D290876-DD15-458D-B6B7-25299B9F0381@frobbit.se> References: <9D290876-DD15-458D-B6B7-25299B9F0381@frobbit.se> Message-ID: <002801cbd358$75efbe60$61cf3b20$@theiet.org> This WG seems to be completely silent. Is there any cooperation going on? I intend to be at RIPE62 in Amsterdam. I would like to have on the agenda: - a review of RIPE's cooperation with the EU (including RIPE NCC), with a discussion of how RIPE will contribute to any forthcoming directives relating to the Internet. - a list of all other 'cooperation' activities that have taken place since RIPE61. - a summary of current activities. Please. Regards Steve Nash -----Original Message----- From: Patrik F?ltstr?m [mailto:patrik at frobbit.se] Sent: 22 December 2010 16:58 To: Nash, Steve Cc: cooperationwg-chairs at ripe.net Subject: Re: EU Directives on Data Retention etc On 22 dec 2010, at 17.49, Nash, Steve wrote: > EU Directive 2006/24/EC on Data Retention was a very poor document . > I hear that the EU is working on such things again. Yes, and no. There is a review going on, and a meeting was held in late November in Brussels. Rumours say that COM will not open up the directive, but instead clarify what is intended. Which to me is another reason for the coop wg to bring this up. > Since the reasons for such Directives include the detection or Abuse I made an enquiry of the Abuse WG, but Brian Nisbet has pointed me in the direction of the Cooperation WG. > I note that the EU did not feature on the agenda at Ripe61, and I needed to attend the parallel Routing WG session. > Do you think that providing advice to the EU on matters of technical feasibility and effectiveness falls within the scope of this WG? I think it would be a good idea to discuss this at the next wg meeting, possibly under a meta-discussion on "who has the responsibility to do what". Specifically looking at what an ISP can do, what they do not want to do etc. Any other takers, ideas? Patrik