From nihb at netflix.com Thu May 8 13:56:50 2014 From: nihb at netflix.com (Nina Bargisen) Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 13:56:50 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] Charter DRAFT for Interconnect Working Group Message-ID: Hi The connect BOF has a slot next week in Warsaw. The organizer group has prepared this DRAFT charter for the proposed working group. Please comment "Draft Charter Interconnection Working Group The Working Group Will: - Facilitate discussions about interconnect for Internet purposes, covering Layer 1-8 - Raise awareness in the community about Interconnection and the role this plays for the Global Internet - Educate policymakers/regulation in how the interconnects works - Act as knowledge-base for interconnect related questions The activities of the workign group to achieve the goals are: - Present and discuss topics related to IP interconnections at the RIPE Working Groups Meetings - Discuss topics related to IP Interconnections on the working-group mailing list - Monitor and take part in discussions in related working groups - like the coorporation wg and the routing wg - Actively seek to take part in IP interconnection discussions taking place outside of the community Topics for the working group include but are not limited to: - IP interconnection - Voice & Data (IPX/GRX) - Regulation and the Internet - State of the Internet - New development in the IXP landscape (not marketing) - EURO-IX slot about ISP tools and where to find IXP status - Data center ecosystem - Interconnecting best practices - Interconnections in emerging markets - Technical topics related to interconnections - Cross border, terrestrial and undersea cables" Cheers, Nina -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marty at akamai.com Sun May 11 22:07:38 2014 From: marty at akamai.com (Hannigan, Martin) Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 16:07:38 -0400 Subject: [connect-bof] Charter DRAFT for Interconnect Working Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37873F48-74DE-43FB-BE17-07FF6982AE75@akamai.com> Disclaimer: I'm on the board of Open-IX, a standards development org http://www.open-ix.org/ I'd like to suggest that the charter also consider a point related to interconnect standards. Enjoy Warsaw! Best, -M< On May 8, 2014, at 7:56 AM, Nina Bargisen wrote: > Hi > > The connect BOF has a slot next week in Warsaw. The organizer group has prepared this DRAFT charter for the proposed working group. Please comment > > "Draft Charter Interconnection Working Group > > The Working Group Will: > > ? Facilitate discussions about interconnect for Internet purposes, covering Layer 1-8 > ? Raise awareness in the community about Interconnection and the role this plays for the Global Internet > ? Educate policymakers/regulation in how the interconnects works > ? Act as knowledge-base for interconnect related questions > > > The activities of the workign group to achieve the goals are: > > > ? Present and discuss topics related to IP interconnections at the RIPE Working Groups Meetings > ? Discuss topics related to IP Interconnections on the working-group mailing list > ? Monitor and take part in discussions in related working groups - like the coorporation wg and the routing wg > ? Actively seek to take part in IP interconnection discussions taking place outside of the community > > Topics for the working group include but are not limited to: > > > ? IP interconnection > ? Voice & Data (IPX/GRX) > ? Regulation and the Internet > ? State of the Internet > ? New development in the IXP landscape (not marketing) > ? EURO-IX slot about ISP tools and where to find IXP status > ? Data center ecosystem > ? Interconnecting best practices > ? Interconnections in emerging markets > ? Technical topics related to interconnections > ? Cross border, terrestrial and undersea cables" > > Cheers, > > Nina > > > > _______________________________________________ > connect-bof mailing list > connect-bof at ripe.net > https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/connect-bof -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From andy at nosignal.org Mon May 12 10:44:05 2014 From: andy at nosignal.org (Andy Davidson) Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:44:05 +0000 Subject: [connect-bof] Charter DRAFT for Interconnect Working Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74ecb08f6a4d43f7b873bc7edc6dc632@AMSPR07MB211.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com> Hi, I don?t have a great deal to add because I think the proposed charter published by Nina is a fantastic way forward. Moving the focus of an interconnection group at RIPE *away* from being centered around Internet Exchange Points and BGP interconnection (on the basis that there is another association which does a great job in this area and also on the basis that much of the RIPE region is well served by professional IXes now) is absolutely the right direction, and that the proposed focus on applications right across the stack is welcome. I'd personally like to see messages and outputs from the Carrier Ethernet community make it through to this working group when they further the topic of layer 2 interconnections (Of course I have a commercial interest in this subject too). Congratulations on publishing a great looking "future-proof" charter and I wish the proposed working group enormous success. Andy -- Regards, Andy Davidson CTO, Allegro Networks UK || Connectivity You Control andy.davidson at allegro.net || www.allegro.net From nihb at netflix.com Wed May 14 14:13:58 2014 From: nihb at netflix.com (Nina Bargisen) Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 14:13:58 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] Agenda for Tomorrows Session Message-ID: Hi All We are happy to prensent the Agenda for the Connect-BOF session Thursday morning at 9:00 AM i Cheers, Nina A. Administrative Matters - Welcome - Introduction to BOF Charter B. Charter - Open discussion of the WG charter C. Interconnection Topics - Building a case for peering in Africa, Michele McCann - Euro-IX update, Bijal Sangani - Single Strand Fiber crossconnects, Will Hargrave - OpenIX update, Fearghas McKay - Content Network Interconnection, Nina Bargisen D. More Administrative Matters - Selection of BOF chairs - Motion to ask RIPE Plenary for Connect BOF to become WG E. AOB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Thu May 15 09:19:18 2014 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 09:19:18 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] IP Interconnection - NGN style Message-ID: http://www.wik.org/index.php?id=458&L=1 http://www.wik.org/fileadmin/Konferenzbeitraege/2008/EU_Workshop_IP_Interconnection_Ma/1_Introduction_IP_Interconnection.pdf From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Thu May 15 09:50:54 2014 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 09:50:54 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] CoE and cross-border interconnection and access Message-ID: Council of Europe: Consolidated report on the cross-border flow of Internet traffic and interference which may have an impact on access to content, services and applications http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/standardsetting/media/cdmsi/CDMSI(2013)misc20_en.pdf From S.Marcus at WIK.ORG Thu May 15 09:40:43 2014 From: S.Marcus at WIK.ORG (Scott Marcus) Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 09:40:43 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] IP Interconnection - NGN style In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71676F071F5BCA4EA11E4D84615C3A08035ED710782A@wik009cgn.WIKGMBH.ORG> Thank you, Gordon! Nice of you to forward this around. I have been lurking on the list, happy to get into these discussions if need be. I continue to do work related to IP interconnection. One issue that is emerging that I did not see in the charter, incidentally, has to do with Caller ID spoofing in a VoIP Scenario. There is growing interest, not only in the IETF but also with NRAs in the US, Canada, and the UK about possible relevance of RPKI-like mechanisms to verify "holdership" of the phone number in order to facilitate some kind of validation of the SIP INVITE. This is not exactly an interconnection issue, but it is linked both to the movement of telephony to IP interconnection, and to the approach taken to phone number portability. Cheers, Scott ________________________________________ From: connect-bof-bounces at ripe.net [connect-bof-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Lennox [gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com] Sent: 15 May 2014 09:19 To: connect-bof at ripe.net BoF Subject: [connect-bof] IP Interconnection - NGN style http://www.wik.org/index.php?id=458&L=1 http://www.wik.org/fileadmin/Konferenzbeitraege/2008/EU_Workshop_IP_Interconnection_Ma/1_Introduction_IP_Interconnection.pdf _______________________________________________ connect-bof mailing list connect-bof at ripe.net https://www.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/connect-bof From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Fri May 16 09:49:33 2014 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:49:33 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] IP Interconnection - NGN style In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry! I was reminded later that some people were not in the room. And so... Mention was made at the microphone of the possible confusion because of the two quite distinct interpretations of the term "IP interconnection". * the interconnection of IP networks - the Internet? * the interconnection of services over IP networks - telecoms services / NGN? The report from WIK for the European Commission referred to the latter. Gordon On 15 May, 2014, at 09:19, Gordon Lennox wrote: > > http://www.wik.org/index.php?id=458&L=1 > > http://www.wik.org/fileadmin/Konferenzbeitraege/2008/EU_Workshop_IP_Interconnection_Ma/1_Introduction_IP_Interconnection.pdf > > From gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com Tue May 20 10:32:39 2014 From: gordon.lennox.13 at gmail.com (Gordon Lennox) Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:32:39 +0200 Subject: [connect-bof] BEREC - Network Neutrality Message-ID: <326BC58F-AF80-4C87-B44C-B64F8F6E0CAE@gmail.com> BEREC have just issued a press release commenting on the Parliament's modified proposal and recalling some of their concerns with the Commission's initial proposal. About network neutrality they write: <> http://berec.europa.eu/eng/news_consultations/whats_new/2203-berec-publishes-its-views-on-the-european-parliament-first-reading-legislative-resolution-on-the-european-commissions-proposal-for-a-connected-continent-regulation So if you want network neutrality then you need regulation? The only question left is what kind. One indication of where they see the limits can perhaps be found in the sentence "This innovation should be safeguarded, both on the edges and within the network." I feel this is a significant shift. I cannot remember regulators looking in detail at what happens within traditional networks. They limited themselves to the "edges". Gordon