[coc-tf] Python Community CoC & Procedures

What is clear to me after reading the Python Code of Conduct sent by Brian,
and FIRST code of conduct sent by Myriam that our coc is a lot less clear
and more complicated.  I know we will be discussing this tomorrow during
our meeting but I was just wondering out loud how much of a revamp we are
getting ourselves  in.
-salam

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 11:19 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:

> Leo,
>
> One point that I'm definitely sure on is that we will need a larger team
> than what we have at the moment, especially as we were discussing needs for
> people to still be able to attend and function at a meeting.
>
> Brian
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> *From:* Leo Vegoda <leo at vegoda.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday 8 November 2020 19:21
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> Hi,
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> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:22 AM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.python.org%2Fpsf%2Fconduct%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccc2c863f0ff24669545008d8841b8fa0%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637404601201294919%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=STgrDjNTpNj2w0uT15tOBaIybbn3stfsh7KUl3S8Ky0%3D&reserved=0
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> I found this an impressive collection of documents. There's clearly
> been a lot of careful thought put into this code.
>
> I particularly like the "Our Community" section at the start,
> especially the first bullet about being open.
>
> The summary of process in the Python code goes from #4 (Evaluate the
> reported incident) to #5 (Propose a behavioral modification plan) and
> #6 (Propose consequences for the reported behavior). It is only at
> this point that there's an acknowledgement that a report could be in
> error. I think that for clarity of communication, we should make sure
> the process itself does not appear to pre-judge the outcome.
>
> The section on decision making is useful input to us in a couple of
> contexts. Firstly, they require a 2/3 majority in a vote of the Code
> of Conduct WG when deciding on behavioral modification plans and
> consequences for violation of the code. If we chose to adopt this
> model it would mean a significantly larger team than the current
> Trusted Contacts team, which was previously three members and is now
> two. This is because the vote needs to be possible if a member has a
> conflict of interest or is unavailable. Presumably, this means at
> least four people in the Code of Conduct team.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Leo
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