[Apwg-ipv6-papi] Meeting planning

[Daniel Stolpe]

Wow,

Now I have finally caught up. I had not Internet time at all on Thursday 
and almoste none on Friday either. Bad timing.

Yes, I agree it is probably wise to let Elvis fight the list, as long as 
he has time. Otherwise we will probably write (hopefully) the same thing 
over and over.

So far we have something like:

* Generally positive feed back.

* Som discussion about address block sizes and limits

* Some discussion about the definition of lower lever IR. I remember Elvis 
wanting to introduce something there.

I guess we should not touch END USER as defined in

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/internet-coordination/internet-governance/internet-technical-community/the-rir-system

So if we polish the definition maybe the maling list can come up with 
something.

* Some discussion about charging schemes, as expected.

This will most probably land in some compromise, as always.

I think a /32 ought to be a bit more than a /48 (50 Eur) and a bit less 
than full membership fee (1.800 Eur). But you can always argue that we 
don't want people to use a /48 to number the whole world or we don't want 
people to stockpile addresses just because there is no extra fee. In 
Sweden, we have a lot of small charges just for that reason. Anything from 
when supermarkets started to charge a few cents for plastic bags to the 
medical fees you pay when visiting a hospital (you might pay something 
like 30 Euros for a surgery that would really cost 2.000 Euros).

As stated by Gert on the list, it is not up to us to decide about charging 
schemes but we should have a suggestion to the AGM.

Cheers,

Daniel

On Tue, 1 Oct 2013, Elvis Velea wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> great, let's do it this way.
>
> On 10/1/13 11:26 AM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
>>  Hi Elvis
>>
>>  Okay, that's a good idea. So, you are our representative in the list. And
>>  we will hopefully catch any arguments.
>
> Please do let me know if you disagree with any of the points I express on the 
> mailing list. I sometimes get carried away and over excited and may miss some 
> valid points :)
>
> cheers,
> elvis
>
>>
>>  Thanks a lot, Olaf
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Elvis Velea [mailto:elvis at velea.eu]
>>  Sent: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2013 10:43
>>  To: Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG
>>  Cc: Daniel Stolpe; apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
>>  Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] Meeting planning
>>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I didn't have any time to keep up with the google document as well.
>>
>>  While I try to respond to every mail sent to the list, can you guys
>>  sumarise the feedback points on the google doc?
>>
>>  thanks,
>>  elvis
>>
>>  On 10/1/13 9:20 AM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
>> >  +1 :)
>> > 
>> >  One question: I saw a lot of arguments about some points. But our google 
>> >  doc "feedback points" is still blank (only four question are noted 
>> >  down). Should we catch any arguments?
>> > 
>> >  Cheers, Olaf
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >  From: apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net
>> >  [mailto:apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Stolpe
>> >  Sent: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2013 09:09
>> >  To: Elvis Velea
>> >  Cc: apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
>> >  Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] Meeting planning
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  On Fri, 27 Sep 2013, Elvis Velea wrote:
>> > 
>> > >  On 9/27/13 10:02 AM, Sander Steffann wrote:
>> > > >  Hi all,
>> > > > 
>> > > > >  the discussion has started, and it's quite positive so far :-) -
>> > > > >  working on details, working on definitions, but no fundamental 
>> > > > >  opposition.
>> > > > 
>> > > >  Good job so far! :)
>> > > >  Sander
>> > > 
>> > >  thanks ! :-)
>> > > 
>> > >  I like the feedback received :)
>> > 
>> >  Great effort!
>> > 
>> >  I've just breifly read some of the discussion. I will try to catch upp 
>> >  ASAP now.
>> > 
>> >  Cheers,
>> > 
>> >  Daniel

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