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Re: [anti-spam-wg@localhost] Abuse contacts in RIPE database and whois

  • To: RIPE anti-spam WG < >
  • From: Markus Stumpf < >
  • Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:31:40 +0200
  • Organization: SpaceNet AG, Muenchen, Germany

On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 07:28:27PM +0100, Rodney Tillotson wrote:
> While it is for the Database WG to decide the best way to
> implement such improvements, the Anti-spam WG noted that
> of the various technical changes which have been proposed
> or partly implemented, one combination which we would find
> acceptable is:

What I really don't understand is why this information has to be in the
RIPE database.

The DNS RR "RP" (Responsible Person) is there sind October 1990 through
RFC 1183.

Most "large" ISPs do something like
    $GENERATE	0-255	$	PTR	10-0-0-$.rev.some.isp.
anyway (have you ever noticed they do not understand DNS in any way,
because they break the right to left hierarchy and they don't understand
mail and blocks neither, because they use "10-0-0-$" instead of
"$.0.0.10" allowing for easier and finer granularity).

So what would be the problem for them (and anyone else) to also add a
    $GENERATE	0-255	$	RP	abuse.some.isp.  .
(besides the fact that $GENERATE does not support RP, but nevertheless
you get the idea).

But I know - this is lame ... one cant't create new records and modify
databases and one doesn't have something special, which abuse complaining
software does need new hooks for - even more hooks for one particular whois
database. RP is there for ages, everyone could use it (despite the whois
database and format used) one doesn't have to deal with (broken) referrals
- and it is lame just because of this.


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