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Re: [anti-spam-wg@localhost] SpamAssassin and this list

  • To: Markus Stumpf < >
  • From: Emma Bretherick < >
  • Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:42:03 +0100
  • Cc: RIPE anti-spam WG < >

Hi there,

I think I might be able to make this a little clearer..

At 19:35 25/11/2003 +0100, Markus Stumpf wrote:

Which will not work. Did you look at what spammers do currently?
They misspell words on purpose to get the eMails through the filters.
Filter producers are reworking their filters to catch up with these
and they already have done to some extent. Do you think a few
handmade modifications will bypass the filter? If it were as easy as
this the filters would be completely worthless.
Anything that passes through the filter will still be checked manually and won't be automatically forwarded to the mailing list, the filter would simply help us to get rid of the obvious spam which we are not doing at the moment.

Hmmm ... I am on this list for a few months at least and I have never
seen UBE on that list. This may also be due to the fact that the list
ist subscriber-post only (at least it was the last time I checked).
So UBE transmissions will be droppped anyway.
Or are you talking about Bounces due to rejects?
Are they causing any serious problems to the admins of the mail servers?
And if so which one?

What is the reason for all of this?
So, currently we (at the RIPE NCC) manually go through every e-mail sent to anti-spam-wg@localhost which is not from an address subscribed to the list. If you are subscribed to the list your mail is automatically forwarded.

With the other RIPE mailing lists we use a spam filter to block all the obvious spam and then manually deal with the mails that slip through. We haven't done this yet for anti-spam for the reasons pointed out by Rodney (it might be more of a risk that a legitimate mail from a non-subscribed address is discarded).

As one of the mail moderators at the RIPE NCC I have never heard of a legitimate mail being discarded by the filters and we also find that it is not very frequent that mails are sent from un-subscribed lists, so the majority of mails dealt with manually are still spam. The filter however does make quite a difference!

Obviously though as one of the moderators I am slightly biased and wouldn't want to sway your opinions ;-)


Emma Bretherick
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