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Re: Commecial vs fairness (was: spam support)

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  • From: Jan Meijer < >
  • Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:43:29 +0100
  • Cc: "anti-spam-wg@localhost" < >
  • Organization: SURFnet bv

> I'm sure they wouldn't, but the problem is that times have changed.  The
> days when you could rely on an AS admin/technical contact to care about
> the traffic that was originated from their network are gone.  There needs
> to be a central organisation that will act if the network provider will
> not.  RIPE is, by far, the best placed organisation to fill this role.
> Setting up a new organisation to deal with this would not only be more
> costly, but also would duplicate a lot of the work that RIPE are already
> doing.

There are many networks that *do* care.  However, it is a problem but your
solution is not the answer.  I feel the central organization you're proposing is
in conflict with the essence of the Internet.  Asides from this: it has been
tried before as EuroCERT, and that didn't work.  What would be a far better idea
is to get the Good Guys talking, and let them decide, each of them on their own,
to block the unwilling networks.  The essence of the Internet is
interconnectivity.  Break the interconnectivity of a network, and you'll bring
it down to its knees.  There are far more ways of organizing activity then to
create one big central organization to police the Internet.  The RIPE community
has organized itself numbers of times, I don't see any reason why it can't
organize itself for this purpose. 


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