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Re: How do you get off ORBS nowadays?

  • To: Gunnar Lindberg < >
  • From: Frank Altpeter < >
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:45:01 +0200
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  • Mail-followup-to: Gunnar Lindberg lindberg@localhost,furio+as@localhost, anti-spam-wg@localhost, sbl@localhost
  • Organization: ISION Internet AG, Hamburg, Germany

Hello !

Gunnar Lindberg wrote on 16.07.2001 11:35:07 +0200:
> Well, hm, I think you miss the point. We can easily "disconnect" ORBS
> (i.e. *we* can stop sending queries to them and effectively ignore
> what the old site is up to) B U T we can not prevent *others* from
> still querying them and thus block *our* mail to these "others".
> This is exactly what can be expected when there is some centralized
> mail-blocking/anti-spam service - it is closed down but the info it
> had still persist and now noone can remove that faulty info. We will
> be happy to close any open relay we happen to have, but we need to
> know why it's considered open.
That's not completely true... just a little test:

this host does exist: has address

this host really doesn't: has address

and this one too: has address

So, they are just listing _every_ possible IP, regardless if it was listed
in ORBS before or not.

So people using ORBS to block incoming mail, will get NO emails anymore.
And that what the above web site tells. So... publish the URL and tell
all your "others" to disable ORBS checking.

It's a strange way to enforce admins to deactivate the ORBS rules in
their mailer, but quite effective...

With kind regards,

		Frank Altpeter

Fry: "Hey, you guys, the most amazing thing happened, it's two-for-one
Tuesday at Krispy Kreme! Plus there's mermaids." 

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