Re: 220.127.116.11 has been listed by ORBS
- Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:04:30 +0200 (MET DST)
Corneliu Tanasa wrote:
> What do you suggest ? To replace the small spammers with OFFICIAL
> SPAMMERS ?
They are not "official spammers". They notify you about serious
configuration problems on your end.
(It's only a configuration problem because Spammers abuse open relays,
but nevertheless, closing the relays is the ONLY way to slow down
Spammers -- and save your resources by not giving them to Spammers --
and thus, you do want to know if you have open relays).
> I can't get your point. Why notify me ?
You're only notified if you're listed as contact person in the RIPE
(or some other IRR) database
> Why not notify just the server itself ?
They do. When one of our customers was found to be vulnerable, they
were notified (to "postmaster@localhost") and I got a copy
as well (being listed as tech-c:).
> I'll give you an example: ORBS had sent such
> notifications both to me as the local registry and also to to owner of
> the domain. I really think that this is SPAM.
No. You're responsible for network abuse done by your customers.
> By the other hand, I am just the administrator of the IP space and also,
> as I said, I see no reason to be responsible for some dial-ip user that
> has a SMTP daemon installed on his W95.
If your customers abuse the net, you will be blaimed -- it's not easy
to contact individual customers, but it IS easy to contact the ISP in
question to stop net abuse.
> So, peoples, if possible, please be more than engineers, be humans and
> think twice before doing something. And Gert, if you've got "a couple
> of mails", I can send you my 30+ such emails and also their copies to my
I can't do anything about it -- you can. For example, do not allow
incoming SMTP connection from "the Internet" to dynamically assigned
IP addresses. Or educate your users.
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