I have not had very much success following that process to report more than one shady /15 in the past. And as for india that is mostly botted IPs rather than a cash and carry IP address market. So far APNIC seems to have its act together rather better on that front. Again as for india there is active outreach going on, where quite a few people are helping indian isps work on their security. --srs (htc one x) <div class="gmail_quote">On 31-Aug-2013 7:20 PM, "Elvis Velea" <<a href="mailto:elvis@velea.eu">elvis@velea.eu</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi, On 8/31/13 9:18 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Nothing against all of romania </blockquote> then maybe it would be a great idea to stop trowing rocks at it <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> but there appears to be more than one rogue operation there </blockquote> Even better, use the RIPE NCC form and report the things you think are wrong with those /32s.. you probably know how to fill in a form, right? <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> [...] are now registering quite a lot of /32 v6 netblocks </blockquote> you can only get one /32 per LIR, how many is quite a lot to you? I have the feeling you exaggerate 'quite a bit' as there are (as it appears in the members list) _in total_ 45 members from Romania, out of each at least 5-10% belong to governmental agencies. You surely do not want to blame the Government for all the spam you receive, right? So, I'd recommend you to stop blaming Romania for all the bad things happening in your life and look at the facts as well, Romanian LEADS the World IPv6 deployment and you are the only person in this community blaming everything you think is wrong unto Romania. Every country has it's own rogue companies, stop pointing fingers at only one.. you make everyone believe there is only one problem. I'd recommend looking at your friends' site [1] and see who you should point fingers at, or look at all the statistics showing that India is fighting with USA for #1 spam country in the world. I'd suggest that next time you want to say the words Romania and spam on a public mailing list to look first in your own garden.. it may be filled with rogue 'plants' cheers, Elvis [1] <a href="http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries/" target="_blank">http://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/countries/</a> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> --srs (htc one x) On 31-Aug-2013 6:05 PM, "Elvis Velea" <<a href="mailto:elvis@velea.eu" target="_blank">elvis@velea.eu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:elvis@velea.eu" target="_blank">elvis@velea.eu</a>>> wrote: Hi Suresh, Firstly, any member (LIR) can receive by default a /32 (up to a /29) ALLOCATION and NOT assignment. It's a /48 PI assignment that you can get if you are not an LIR. Secondly, @Suresh - have a look at who is leading the world in IPv6 deployment and then you may want to be careful with trowing stones at Romania. Romania IS and has been for at least one year the leader in IPv6 deployment in the whole world, if you are badmouthing Romania for it's spam, try to praise it for it's IPv6 deployment, that would be fair. My 2 cents, Elvis Daniel Velea (proud Romanian) On 8/31/13 7:11 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: I was starting to wonder whether anybody else with an operational antispam and security role for a large provider was around here. :) Thanks for chiming in, vijay. At a guess those v6 /32s are all registered in Romania? --srs On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Vijay Eranti (✌ విజయ్ ఈరంటి) wrote: i agree with suresh's assessment. Lately lot of spammers are getting /32 ipv6 assignments with their own ASNs and having a nice run. The ipv4 allotment is seriously broken in ripe - just having paperwork with valid forms filled is good enough to allot what ever range the spammers can ask. regards vijay On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com" target="_blank">ops.lists@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com" target="_blank">ops.lists@gmail.com</a>> <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', '<a href="mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com" target="_blank">ops.lists@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ops.lists@gmail.com" target="_blank">ops.lists@gmail.com</a>>');>> wrote: The lack of progress is simply because you have very few people who are in a security rather than IP admin or network ops role. Security as in for a seriously large provider. The other lack of progress - well, changing entrenched policies, or enforcing them beyond a point where the enforcer is reluctant to investigate (or is it "play police" according to the local meme) is as tough as it sounds. On Friday, July 5, 2013, Frank Gadegast wrote: Sascha Luck wrote: TTBOMK, as long as policy requirements are fulfilled there is no mandate to revoke resources. Any spammer on this list (think so, simply because of the lack of progress) ? * Im starting now a second carrier in renting all the IPv4 addresses left in our allocation exclusively to abusers and make a lot of money with it. Just make offers now. * Will surely put a working abuse contact email address in RIPEs db, that gets directed to /dev/null and have a correct postal address somewhere on a funny island ... And it looks like if nobody could ever do anything against it. The current regulations are simply slippery as an eel (like we say in Germany), no way to catch anybody responsible. Again, ridicolous ... Kind regards, Frank -- PHADE Software - PowerWeb <a href="http://www.powerweb.de" target="_blank">http://www.powerweb.de</a> Inh. Dipl.-Inform. Frank Gadegast mailto:<a href="mailto:frank@powerweb.de" target="_blank">frank@powerweb.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:frank@powerweb.de" target="_blank">frank@powerweb.de</a>> Schinkelstrasse 17 fon: +49 33200 52920 <tel:%2B49%2033200%2052920> 14558 Nuthetal OT Rehbruecke, Germany fax: +49 33200 52921 <tel:%2B49%2033200%2052921> ==============================____============================__==__========== -- --srs (iPad) -- --srs (iPad) -- Kind regards, Elvis Velea </blockquote> -- Kind regards, Elvis Velea </blockquote></div>