[anti-abuse-wg] About "consensus" and "voting"...
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Sander Steffann
sander at steffann.nl
Sat May 9 20:46:15 CEST 2020
Hi Randy, >> Otherwise we change the way the working Groups works it will remain >> unchanged for ever. I agree that we must get a way to vote or another >> democratic way to get decisions. > > the goals of the ripe community are stewardship and cooperation, not > voting, deciding, and "getting things done." you can look at the > current us govt for a great example of why not. > > if we can not come to consensus on something, then we are patient. > and that's ok. we move as a cooperative community and that takes > time. > > yes, this becomes more complex as the community scales and becomes > more diverse. and we want diversity and wide representation. so > ever more patience is needed; not the means to rush to judgment. > > for a large segment of the community, and that which was pretty much > the original population, there is an underlying physics and shared > experience of moving packets, routing, circuits, bgp, ixen, ... that > gives us a common experience and understanding. > > as we become more diverse, the physics of that shared experience and > understanding weakens. so cooperative/consensus decision making is > more complex and takes longer. welcome to a larger and mode diverse > community. this is good. > > but we are stewards of one internet. > > it took eight, yes eight, years for me to get the ietf to change a > constant from 4k to 64k (rfc 8654). so my sense of urgency may be a > little different than that of others. Thank you for writing this down so clearly, Sander -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20200509/954d8837/attachment.sig>
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