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Serge Droz
serge.droz at first.org
Thu Jul 9 09:35:08 CEST 2020
Hi ángel Thanks, good advice indeed. I second you to make your views known to the Commission. Best Serge On 09.07.20 09:16, Angel Fernandez Pineda wrote: > Hi, > I would like to make a recommendation to all of you. The EU has opened a > consultation on the Digital Service Act, a future regulation that aims > to review the role of digital platforms and technoly intermediaries and > establish regulations to protect the rights of users and companies that > operate online wherever is required. Of course, the role of ISPs or > organizations like RIPE NCC can be subject to asses. > > The aim of the European Commission with the consultation is to identify > situations that put at risk the safety and rights of users or the rights > of companies to compete in a fair market. > > To those of you who know that this discussion, repeated so many times in > this WG, will not reach to anything, I would like to invite you to > dedicate a little of your time to answering the consultation. You will > find it at: > > https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/12417-Digital-Services-Act-deepening-the-Internal-Market-and-clarifying-responsibilities-for-digital-services/public-consultation > > Best, > ángel > Grupo Godó de Comunicación > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De:* anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> en nombre de Serge > Droz via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> > *Enviado:* jueves, 9 de julio de 2020 8:29 > *Para:* anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> > *Asunto:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers > > Hi Info > > Maybe one of the reasons some Non-logging VPNs end up on blacklist sis > that the Non-Looging phrase is just an excuse to not go after misuse. > The rights to privacy and free speech do not mean anything goes. > > You can fight abuse without violating privacy. But of course that's not > for free, you need abuse people that investigate and they cost money. > Sadly, many of these VPNs frankly just don't care, using the lame excuse > that they are protecting fundamental rights, when in fact they are just > don't care or take responsibility. > > I don't agree with everything Spamhaus does, but I find them responsible > and and always found a way way to talk to them. > > I was reluctant writing this, because I'm not sure this discussion will > lead anywhere. It's one of these where opinions seem to already have > been formed. > > But you start accusing people of posting anonymously. I totally agree > this is bad, but then, who are you, info at fos-vpn.org? > > You don't seem to offer a name yourself. I find this a bit hypocritical. > > Best > Serge > > > On 08.07.20 20:46, info at fos-vpn.org wrote: >> All I would like from Spamhaus is to stop publishing fake SBL records in >> order to discredit us and to use that to put pressure both upon us and >> our upstreams. >> Non-logging VPN services are as legal within the EU as Exit Nodes of the >> Tor Network (which have massive abuse entries in various data bases, >> especially the larger ones) and public WiFi Hotspots, which can be used >> for abusive activities, too. >> >> I don't know who "PP" is (probably the same person which posts under the >> nickname "Petras Simeon" on Twitter and on various boards), but he >> contacted us and our upstream providers without telling his name, just >> using this email address: phishphucker at storey.ovh and sending us the >> list of SBL entries which he also posted here. >> Don't know if he's working for Spamhaus or not, but before attacking >> others publicly, people should reveal their true identity, anything else >> would be sneaky in my opinion. >> > > -- > Dr. Serge Droz > Chair of the FIRST Board of Directors > https://www.first.org > -- Dr. Serge Droz Chair of the FIRST Board of Directors https://www.first.org
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