[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 Discussion Phase (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")
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Carlos Friaças
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Wed Apr 29 19:51:42 CEST 2020
Hi, On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 29/04/2020 16:55: >> So, it's the security guys, saying >> >> This may help a bit, but won't solve all problems. +1 here. >> versus the infrastructure operators saying >> >> Beware! This it creating huge costs and will not help at all, and >> answering two mails a year will be our ruin. > > The root problem is that the policy proposes to use the RIPE NCC to enforce > abuse management processes. > > The specifics in this iteration of the document are to threaten and then act > to deregister an organisation's number resources - and thereby remove their > ability to conduct business - if the organisation declines to handle abuse > complaints over email. If the "deregistration" could be placed outside of the picture (in a new version?), what's the next major hurdle then...? I mean, if "deregistration" is not possible when validation fails (continuously), there might still be positive outcomes (transparency...), if the price tag on the RIPE NCC is not that big. I don't see an impact analysis yet, but if it's affordable for other RIRs, maybe it will be also for the RIPE NCC -- who knows? > To be clear, it's a fundamental right in large chunks of the RIPE service > region to conduct business. If the RIPE NCC acts to threaten to remove this > ability to conduct business, Very glad it's "business", not "abuse" :-)) Carlos > there would need to be sound legal justification > for doing so. > > Nick >
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