[anti-abuse-wg] Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80

I appreciate if no one including the Co-chairs speaks on behalf of
"everyone" in the list. in my opinion is it very unlikely that "everyone"
has the same opinion in a public mailing list which is totally fine.

Best regards,

Arash

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:41 PM Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:

> Elad,
>
> Let me be very clear here, we will not be discussing this during the
> meeting in May.
>
> Repeated assertions do not make a thing true and at this point everyone is
> very clear on your opinion of Spamhaus. I will ask you directly to cease
> these kinds of emails to the list. This is the last time I hope I have to
> say this.
>
> Brian
> Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG
>
> Brian Nisbet
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> ________________________________________
> From: Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io>
> Sent: Monday 20 April 2020 10:11
> To: Brian Nisbet; anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80
>
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>
>
> Hello Brian,
>
> I have a matter that I would like to raise:
>
> The anti-abuse illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" and
> how it is damaging and hurting many businesses worldwide, how the contacts
> of that illegal anonymous organizations are part of the anti-abuse
> community (including in this working group like Richard D G Cox was) and
> how they are violating global privacy laws with the support of LEA's - all
> of it in illegal way according to the LEA's countries and according to the
> following presentation of "The Spamhaus Project":
>
>
> https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation
> <
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scribd.com%2Fdocument%2F445894312%2FSpamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021490189&sdata=FRYOtS2YOdR7mbCRzPZY6XIyYhhUi1UAJ2BWWmiTwOc%3D&reserved=0
> >
>
> ---
>
> Besides it, there is another matter of "The Spamhaus Project" not being
> regulated and supervised by any country/government/LEA - in this way
> members of "The Spamhaus Project" can abuse it for their own benefits, for
> example the criminal which is the owner of the twitter account
> https://twitter.com/underthebreach<
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Funderthebreach&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021490189&sdata=8ulNyrx0SdD0zO0Qq4nDHvEA5d8Aqi2%2FHyKd3hF3tG8%3D&reserved=0>
> and is part of "The Spamhaus Project", for example Laura Atkins from
> WordToTheWise (https://wordtothewise.com/<
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordtothewise.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021500188&sdata=ZdxcdA1R6A4VoDdTSs0L6RU6AmK%2B5qyh9LFypvv8dck%3D&reserved=0>)
> which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service, for example members of
> "The Spamhaus Project" which are working in email delivery companies and
> "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking their competitors.
>
> ---
>
> Another matter that I would like to raise is the use of profiling in the
> anti-abuse community including in "The Spamhaus Project", profiling is
> being used by dumb people that don't know how to their work otherwise, it
> is the "easy" (and to my opinion - highly illegal) way. The anti-abuse
> community should raise its voice against any kind of profiling being done
> by the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".
>
> Respectfully,
> Elad
>
> ________________________________
> From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Brian
> Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie>
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:08 AM
> To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
> Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Call For Agenda Items RIPE 80
>
> Colleagues,
>
> As you are all no doubt aware RIPE 80 will be an online only meeting.
>
> This is a new departure for us all, but significant preparation has
> already been done and I'm really looking forward to a great event.
>
> The Anti-Abuse WG has a slot from 10:00 - 10:45 CEST on Thursday 14th May.
> If you have any matters you'd like to raise, please let me know as soon as
> possible.
>
> And remember, you need to register for RIPE 80. You can do so, free of
> charge, here:
>
> https://ripe80.ripe.net/attend/register/<
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fripe80.ripe.net%2Fattend%2Fregister%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7C40da683e73a74aa47a7f08d7e50ad55e%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637229707021500188&sdata=aIrgfJsl9e5dcMx40bwT26KuwEvpkXk8VkRJ2ixDo18%3D&reserved=0
> >
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> Brian Nisbet
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