[anti-abuse-wg] @EXT: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

All organizations can (and should) act on abusive behaviours to the extent possible, regardless of further work determining if that behaviour is also illegal or not. As Jordi said, policies exist for that purpose. To set boundaries of acceptable behavior and rules that define the posture of the community and the relations within the community.

There’s a difference between being neutral and being passive.

Regards
Rogerio

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Marcolla, Sara Veronica <Sara.Marcolla at europol.europa.eu> wrote:
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> Sure, respecting the legal framework is the basis of our legal systems, and abiding to rules and legal procedures is paramount. This said, private companies can themselves act in such a way to discourage criminals to take advantage of their resources, through having rules in place that disallow certain behaviours.
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> Kind regards,
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> Sara Marcolla
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> Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3)
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> From: Maxi <maxi at zeug.co <mailto:maxi at zeug.co>>
> Sent: 17 April 2020 10:58
> To: Marcolla, Sara Veronica <Sara.Marcolla at europol.europa.eu <mailto:Sara.Marcolla at europol.europa.eu>>
> Subject: Re: @EXT: RE: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election
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> Dear Sara,
> This is not a personal attack on you, but I would handle your request like every other request from the police -> Go get a court order.
> 
> When the RIPE would decide to block off abusive behaviour with out external orders, wouldn’t that open the RIPE to stuff like: “Hey in our country this and this party is abusive, lets delete the resources of them”?
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> So no, I would not want the RIPE to make such decisions on her own.
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> Maxi
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> On 17. Apr 2020, at 10:54, Marcolla, Sara Veronica <Sara.Marcolla at europol.europa.eu <mailto:Sara.Marcolla at europol.europa.eu>> wrote:
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> Hi Maxi,
> 
> Technical innovation can be harnessed for social good, but just as readily for nefarious ends. This is truer of cybercrime than of perhaps any other crime area. And cybercriminals are also getting more aggressive. That’s why Europol and its partner organisations are taking the fight to them on all fronts.
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> Encouraging all members of the Internet community to join the fight against crime is one of the objectives of the Cybercrime centre, and working together with public-private partnerships is the best way to achieve these results. If you are interested, you can find out more on our official website: https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime <https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas-and-trends/crime-areas/cybercrime>.
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> Kind regards,
> 
> Sara Marcolla
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> Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3)
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> From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net>>On Behalf Of Maxi
> Sent: 17 April 2020 10:43
> To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> 
> Hey,
> Is this the official point of view from Europol?
> If so, please have in mind that the RIPE NCC has to follow certain court rules. The RIPE NCC should stay neutral, because only courts could decide if something is illegal or not.
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> //Maxi
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