[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Thu May 23 11:39:18 CEST 2019
Hi, On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 06:29:32AM +0200, ac wrote: > > Folks, the process we have in the RIPE region for abuse contact > > validation is the result of a *consensus based process* that happend > > *in this working group*. > > Before you all argue for "we need to have more paperwork!" please take > > a step back and explain a) what is wrong with the current validation > > process, and b) why this proposal would improve this. > > Gert Doering > > -- NetMaster > > because, IRL (in real life) things do not remain "static" This is why we do (already!) verify abuse-c: reachability today. In a lightweight process that came out as consensus out of this very WG. [..] > your very forceful and multiple emails arguing very hard against and > all your emails, attacking each and every +1 simply serves to > illustrate that you really want to enforce your opinion on the group > in this regard. > > So, again, I ask: Why not propose to remove the abuse contact resource > completely? Is this where you are going with your very strong and > continuing and ongoing objections? No. Abuse-contacts are useful. We do validate them today for technical reachability. This is fully sufficient to notice technical brokenness. It is not sufficient to enforce actual abuse *handling*, but neither is the proposed policy change. Do not put words in my mouth, I'm perfectly able to do that myself. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20190523/b548df1c/attachment.sig>
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