[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Sat May 18 09:56:36 CEST 2019
Hi, On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 12:02:48AM +0100, Carlos Friaças wrote: > > There is no indication that the complications Jordi is proposing are > > an actual improvement in any metric, except "human life time wasted". > > Starting with "complications" is really not that constructive. > > If the process is too complex let's work on it, and make it simpler where > it is possible. We have an existing process that is the result of a PDP discussed in this very working group, reflecting community consensus on the balance between checking and annoyance. Nobody has made a convincing argument why this needs to be made stricter and more time consuming. > Trying to build a softer approach, maybe the NCC doesn't need to send > _everyone_ a message twice a year, but if someone finds an abuse-mailbox > to be unresponsive, then if it is mandatory to have a working > contact/mailbox, the NCC could only get into the picture when someone > detects that is not in place. > > Or is _that_ already in place...? We *HAVE* a process to check abuse contacts. We *HAVE* ARCs. So, please state *first* what is wrong or insufficient with the current process, and why these added complications would improve the end goal: abuse reports sent to ISPs are handled "better" (in a to-be-defined metric). Note: taking away lifetime from the people doing abuse mail handling is not going to make them more enthusiastic about doing their job. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20190518/8e1fdadf/attachment.sig>
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