[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 and over-reach

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 12:24:13 +0000
"Sascha Luck [ml]" <aawg at c4inet.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 12:44:47PM +0200, ac wrote:
> >I frequently read someone saying "RIPE is not the Internet
> >Police" (even I have said that a few times myself) but the hard
> >truth is that any RIR has a duty to exercise administrative
> >authority.  
> 
> Only as far as it pertains to the registration of
> allocated/assigned resources. All membership of the RIPE NCC
> since its foundation was entered into with the understanding that
> the NCC is a *registry* not an *enforcer* and does not regulate
> the operation or behaviour of member networks.
<snip>

exactly my point. 

for the purposes of discussing administrative authority and/or force,
as it relates to abuse, we need to set aside 2019-03 specifically and
focus on the core principles of administrative authority.

do you agree that any registry has an administrative authority?

any registry is an *enforcer* by default as the very act of registration implies force.
(as, for example, a resource is assigned to you and not to me)

how registration happens (the process), the criteria for registration,
the criteria for de-registration, these are all examples of administrative authority.

IF RIPE (or any RIR) should de-register/remove a resource registration
it is acting administratively

It is not forcing anyone to do anything, it is doing exactly that
which it is supposed to be doing: 

Being a Registry.