[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)
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Sascha Luck [ml]
aawg at c4inet.net
Fri Mar 22 11:36:35 CET 2019
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 09:33:42PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >In message <CAFV686e9aa8xhACUz+ePfbELU74MPcE-2PiC2-kpU-1xAptxFA at mail.gmail.com> >Jacob Slater <jacob at rezero.org> wrote: > >All I know is that the RIPE WHOIS data base contains, among much other stuff, >route: object which generally document what is generally believed to be >information about properly authorized (by the affected resources holder) >routing permissions. If there exists information about properly authorized Right now, only the prefix owner needs to authorise the route: object. In the past, the ASN needed to be authorised as well but this proved unworkable in practice. >Second, although the word "vigilante" has, in the modern era, come to have >much negative connotation, there was quite certainly was a time and place >when and where that was not so. I am speaking specifically of the >American West in the time before it became entirely civilized and in >the time before it had a full compliment of established legislatures, >established laws, established courts, established (and paid) law enforcement >agents, and all of the other bits, pieces, and accoutrements, of what >we all, in the modern era, think of as a properly functioning system of >justice. In that time and place early settlers did often band together >in order to enforce at least some sense of community-backed justice. >It wasn't always pretty, and it wasn't always fair or just, but in the >absence of officially authorized systems of justice, it was often all >that those early settlers had to defend themselves from the unjust >tyrany of the strong against the weak. True, and when that became out-of-control and abusive the government would send the cavalry and the marshals and restore some semblance of rule of law. (at least that is how I remember it worked in Western films) I wonder whether it is time to issue movement warnings to the cavalry... rgds, SL
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