[anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

Morning,

The verification system that is being implemented is the one that comes from the policy that was approved by the RIPE community. While I, personally, believe it is what is possible right now, the opportunity exists for everyone in the community to propose a different policy. The Anti-Abuse WG Chairs and the RIPE Policy Development team stand ready to assist anyone with this.

Thanks,

Brian
Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG

Brian Nisbet
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From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Fi Shing
Sent: Tuesday 5 March 2019 11:28
To: Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>; anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

Yes, the verification mechanism they chose to implement was a flop, with no input required from address owners.


In reality, it should be "verify your email address by clicking this link once a week or your resources are decommissioned within 24 hours" but alas, that would make too much sense.


abuse.net<http://abuse.net> lists these contacts for mesh digital:

abuse at meshdigital.com<mailto:abuse at meshdigital.com> (for meshdigital.com<http://meshdigital.com>)
noc at meshdigital.com<mailto:noc at meshdigital.com> (for meshdigital.com<http://meshdigital.com>)
ripe at netsumo.com<mailto:ripe at netsumo.com> (for meshdigital.com<http://meshdigital.com>)



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Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?
From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com<mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>>
Date: Tue, March 05, 2019 8:55 am
To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net<mailto:anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net>


Sorry folks, when this topic was discussed, I confess that I wasn't
really paying much attention. So now I am forced to ask: Was someone
going to verify the abuse contact addresses listed in the RIPE WHOIS
data base?

If so, how is that project coming along?

I'll tell you why I ask. It's quite simple really. Some jerk, probably
Mexican, just sent me a spam wherein he was advertising for sale his
list of 18 million "business" email addreses. (I can't quite tell if
those are all supposed to be specifically Mexican email addrses or what...
because the spam was written in Spanish, and I don't speak Spanish.)

https://pastebin.com/raw/dT11krpN

Note that the specific email address of mine that was spammed was one that
I only used in ancient times, and only in conjunction with my activities
on one specific web site. (It obviously leaked somehow.)

The envelope sender address was forged to be my own.

The source IP was 109.68.33.19 as you can see. So naturally, I performed
a RIPE WHOIS query on that IP address and the results I got back indicated
that the contact email address for spam reports was <abuse at meshdigital.com<mailto:abuse at meshdigital.com>>.
So I emailed off a report to that address.

Of course, it bounced back to me immediately as undeliverable.

This causes me to suspect that either (a) that stuff that I thought that
I has seen previously about a project to verify abuse addresses was all
just a bunch of malarkey, or else (b) that project is still unfinished
and perhaps not going all that well.

Could someone please enlighten me and tell me which possibility actually
applies?


Regards,
rfg


P.s. It is annoying enough to have to lookup who the bleep should
receive a report about spamming from their network _and_ to have to
even write such reports, when 9 time sout of ten, the sending network
could have easly prevented the spam from even going out. It is just
adding insult to injury when the bloody "official" abuse reporting
address doesn't even actually exist.

And of course, neither meshdigital.com<http://meshdigital.com> nor meshdigital.net<http://meshdigital.net> even have
functioning web sites.

Apparently this is all the work of some dolts at a company called heg.com<http://heg.com>,
in Germany. Do any of you happen to know any of the clueless nitwits
who work there? If so, maybe you could put me in direct touch so that
I could personally apply a much needed clue-by-four.
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